Send All Notes Off

[ztones]

BTW, something is odd with the script. When I open the gig file, add my plugins etc, it works fine (except it keeps adding new notes). Both note on and off messages are going through. However, when I hit the compile button in the script editor, the NOTE OFF messages get filtered out. If I dont save and reload the gig file, it works again. As soon as I hit compile, only note ON messages go through, not note OFF. Odd!

[pianopaul]

AutoSustainer.gig (6.1 KB)

With this version the script is working after a new compile also.

[pianopaul]

@ztones

If its not asking too much and doesn’t require too much thinking, I’d love to get two scripts. One that does not allow new notes to play at all and another one that does allow new notes but will not sustain them. That way I could test out which version is more useful for me. LOL Thanks so much!

You could create a new variation where the NOTE ON Message is filtered.
When this variation is selected no new notes are coming in.

[rank13]

@ztones

I could do this with a 3rd widget linking it to the midi in block as you pointed it out, but then I would need a separate midi in block for each plugin.

Couldn’t you use a dedicated midi in block just for the notes off message? e.g. Use the OSC midi in block. Then you could still use the midi filter solution you are already using to ensure that the notes off message only goes to the plugin you want it to.

[Hermon]

@ztones

So my goal is to be able to sustain whatever midi notes I am holding when I press the widget and it also should not allow any NEW midi notes to play, only hold the ones I want to sustain. Example would be to hold and sustain a pad sound and play guitar over it

As a guitarist, I gave up the different hardware MIDI converters I had been using for 30 years, in favour of Midi Guitar which I use in all my rackspaces.

There is a function that allows 3 kinds of sustain & hold, including the one you are exactly looking for:

[ztones]

Its still filtering note off messages after a compile.

@pianopaul

With this version the script is working after a new compile also.

[pianopaul]

When you create a new rackspace and switch to the new rackspace and back to the oroiginal?
Is it working then?

And you have to make sure your are using it in the original state.
Some variables are set etc.
The Widget should be set to off before you compile.

[ztones]

Yes. When I create a new rackspace and go back it works again…until I hit compile again, at which point it doesn’t…but of course that doesn’t happen in real life, but I’d like to understand what is going on. LOL

[pianopaul]

Let me think again

[ztones]

I’m a scripting illiterate, I can kinda make sense of what is going if I stare at it long enough, I tried but I can’t seem to figure out how to NOT sustain the new notes after pressing the pedal.

[pianopaul]

When you watch that movie “The Men Who Stare at Goats”

Maybe that helps

[ztones]

Thanks for the suggestion! Looks very cool. I like that you don’t need a midi pickup. I already have a Fishman TriplePlay setup however and based on what I just read its a bit faster than Jam Origin’s and I also like separating the 6 strings so I’ll keep that for midi conversion. For my other guitars however…might just be a great option!!!

You use this as a plugin inside GP? Is there a way to only use its hold function and not the actual conversion? Or is it a single bundle for everything (conversion and functions)?

@Hermon

As a guitarist, I gave up the different hardware MIDI converters I had been using for 30 years, in favour of Midi Guitar which I use in all my rackspaces.

There is a function that allows 3 kinds of sustain & hold, including the one you are exactly looking for:

[ztones]

While you’re thinking brother, please include a “play, but don’t sustain notes after pedal press” option. I’ll buy you a virtual beer! Any brand, any time!

[David-san]

@ztones

a virtual beer!

I am pretty sure he prefers non virtual ones

[pianopaul]

Please try this and test if it is working after a recompile
AutoSustainer.gig (6.0 KB)

[pianopaul]

For my understanding:
Press Sustain
Played notes sustain
Release Sustain
Played notes sustain
New played Notes do not sustain
Press Sustain
Sustained Notes stop
Played Notes do not sustain.
Release Sustain
Played Notes do not sustain

Is it working this way?
When not, what is not working?

[Hermon]

@ztones

You use this as a plugin inside GP? Is there a way to only use its hold function and not the actual conversion? Or is it a single bundle for everything (conversion and functions)?

Yes it works: I just tried it.
I simply connected a Midi in block into Midi Guitar’s midi in and Midi Guitar’s midi out to a synth.

@ztones

Fishman TriplePlay setup however and based on what I just read its a bit faster than Jam Origin’s

There is no latency issue with Midi Guitar unless you can hear differences below few ms

If you want to simplify your equipment or be able to change guitar to keep on playing after breaking a string, Midi Guitar is perfect.

Now if you need to separate the strings, it is better to play with a Fishman system, whatever you can use scripting too in Midi Guitar to split ranges with separate synths.
As a matter of fact, the hold function is as well a script with a GUI as you can see on the picture.
There are 4 slots called midi machines included. Scripting is LUA language.

But what is best if you keep on playing with Fishman? Paying 88€ for a plugin with hold function or a virtual beer for a GP script?

[ztones]

@David-san

I am pretty sure he prefers non virtual ones

I’m sure you are 100% right about that! LOL

[ztones]

@Hermon

If you want to simplify your equipment or be able to change guitar to keep on playing after breaking a string, Midi Guitar is perfect.

Now if you need to separate the strings, it is better to play with a Fishman system, whatever you can use scripting too in Midi Guitar to split ranges with separate synths.
As a matter of fact, the hold function is as well a script with a GUI as you can see on the picture.
There are 4 slots called midi machines included. Scripting is LUA language.

But what is best if you keep on playing with Fishman? Paying 88€ for a plugin with hold function or a virtual beer for a GP script?

The demo on their website is super impressive and your personal recommendation makes it a very appealing software to check out! Swapping guitars quickly is exactly what I thought about, although I must say Fishman made this simple too with their “slide and click” on and off different guitars mounting bracket.

Hey, if there is bitcoin, there can also be virtual beer and I like the sound of the latter much more! LOL I think we should all just start doing commerce in VB’s.

[ztones]

@pianopaul

For my understanding:
Press Sustain
Played notes sustain
Release Sustain
Played notes sustain
New played Notes do not sustain
Press Sustain
Sustained Notes stop
Played Notes do not sustain.
Release Sustain
Played Notes do not sustain

Is it working this way?
When not, what is not working?

So the main issue now is that all notes played after pressing pedal/widget CC#64 sustain.