Multipad SPD-SX - Double Hit Necessary to activate Widget

Hi,
I use a Roland SPD-SX Percussion Multipad to control UVI’s Percussion Factory vst inside UVI Workstation. PercFactory is set up that certain midi notes play one of 8 single loops (C2-C3), or all loops (C4) together.
I built a rackspace with a panel representing the nine pads on the SPD-SX and assigned each pad to one of the aforementioned midi notes. (Pad widgets controlling the Midi-In block’s NoteOn commands on the plug-in side and Midi-learned the corresponding pads on the SPD-SX).The SPD-SX is set to alternate the state of the midi note with each hit, first hit = NoteOn, second hit = NoteOff.
Everything works as expected when I click the pad widgets with the mouse, but I have to hit the pad on the SPD-SX always twice to activate the widget.
BTW, strangely PercFactory does not respond to normal midi note commands from the SPD-SX pads. Playing the notes on my other midi keyboards works just fine and other plugins, like Gforce’s new DMX drum machine or Cherry Audio’s CR-78 recognize the midi notes coming from the SPD-SX as expected.

Any ideas what might be the reason for that behaviour on the SPD-SX? I tried all midi settings in the SPD-SX. Is there a setting I overlooked in GP? Thanks in advance!

What can you see in the Global MIDI Monitor window when you play the pads on SPD-SX?

grafik

Please see screenshot. The first two entries are the double hit to activate the widget, entries 3 and four the double hit to deactivate it.

Please upload the gig file, so I could check

DrumsPercussion.gig (222.4 KB)

OK, Note On events are treated different from normal CC messages.
Any chance you configure your SPD-SX to send CC messages instead of Note On/Off messages?

The SPD-SX is indeed configured to also send and receive CC and PC messages. I use the CC for the two encoders
I switched off the CC messages, but the widget behaviour is the same. Two hits necessary.
As expected, the encoder widgets did not respond with CC messages turned off.

Maybe that helps

Trigger widgets with note events

Disable the “Momentary to latching” option in the midi tab of the widgets - i guess is is the culprit.

That does not help, then the widget stays on.

In the above post I copied the post where you found a solution :wink:

Yes, indeed the widhet stays on.

Thanks for the link. From the explanation it seems to tackle my exact problem.
I guess it’s time to master scripting. :wink:

Another try (Setup of SPD-SX).

Set GATE to OFF
When I understand correctly then you activate the pad on SPD-SX and the widget is set to on.
You Press the pad again, then the widget is set to off.

Hehe… seems i had to struggle with that issue already - totally forgt about that. :grimacing: :innocent:

I tried that, but the OFF position sends NoteOn and NoteOff messages quickly one after the other and is meant for one-shot samples, not for loops.

Yes, thanks for uploading this.

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But the widget then stays ON and with the next press it goes off.
The widget should send a Note On message when it goes on and Send a Note Off message when it goes off.

Wahnsinn! That works! Vielen Dank!
I thought I tried that, but maybe with other settings in GP - a lot of trial and error yesterday.

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