I have been using meters to try to keep levels in check. I think it is working okay, but, I am wondering if I need a limiter plug in.
Do most people use a limiter to ensure that output sent out does not clip? If so, do most people put it in the global rackspace and run all rackspaces through it?
I think I’ll pass on Waves. I don’t like that (as I read it), unless you purchase some other type of upgrade plan, I cannot install the plug in on a 2nd laptop.
I use a limiter in my global rack space that everything runs through, in fact I have a suite of “master” type effects I use in the global rackspace and use linked widgets to tweak their values (i.e. more/less stereo width, 3 band EQ, reverb etc) for each song rackspace I have in my gig file.
Currently I am using Unfiltered Audio Byome (a configurable multi-effect) from Plugin Alliance for this job.
I don’t quite understand how loud max can work with GP…according to their page they are using look ahead, which is fine in a DAW when you have tracked with prerecorded stuff but when you’re playing in real time, there is nothing to look ahead at.
What am I missing?
Just speaking for myself with my musician’s hat on…
Looking at the two plugins in question, I must admit I find the one on the left quite a bit less intimidating.
Also, at least for me, when it comes to EQ, I’d much rather use something like EQuilibrium where I can have multiple bands and with the analyser I can see the effect it’s having without having to use a separate spectrum analyser plugin.
Clearly this kind of thing is a matter of taste and the good news is that there are enough choices out there that people can have whatever works best for them.
thanks for the feedback…sound like there are no special requirements or needs for the limiter / safety-net before the audio-out - more a personal choice.
related to the recommended EQ:
Fabfilter Q and EQuilibrium are both nice but so far i have not seen a good deal.
My two cents worth - I have a number of different equalizers and limiters in various products I own, but I wind up using many of the Melda products in most circumstances. I really like them, I’m sure part of the reason now is that I have used them enough that I understand the way that their plugins work which is consistent across their product range.
Yes!
For example: I’m a keyboarder in a cover band playing many Rammstein songs. I have many sound FX, samples and synth arpeggio loops which should be earth-shaking. In many cases I have to push the average loudness of these sounds quite to the top. At the same time I need to tame the peaks, so my interface is not clipping, or worst case, the input of the FOH desk or power amplifiers are clipping.
Typically, most digital FOH desks and digital processor-driven Class-D power amplifiers have limiters in their chain active, too, but these are out of your control regarding threshold and dynamics. So I take care of my peak levels with the TDR limiter chain, while maximizing loudness with the built.in compressor, in total with very very low added latency. In my case with my settings, 12 samples = 0.3 ms. Not preceivable, but this small look-ahed helps the TDR limiter to tame the shapest peaks.
We play often at venues where the locals rent the PA. Their FOH sound engineer doesn’t know us or my sound FX. Without limiter he would be scared to death after a few songs, and would pull my level faders down for the remaining show.
I’m using such limiters as final plug-ins since many years, and often the FOH guys praise my sounds delivered at rather constant levels after the show.
EDIT: Most channel strips offer not that level of control like a dedicated limiter plug-in. In fact, I tried many limiters and the like in channel strips over many many years, and I’m a big fan of the TDR limiter, now.