I’m new to GP. I’ve been using my first gig file mostly successfully for a about 2 months. I was on Tahoe initially. Latest GP 5 version. I started to notice GP would be hung every once in a while(spinning rainbow beachball). I couldn’t pin down a cause, so i downgraded to MAC Sonoma, and reinstalled everything. Now things are seemingly worse. The consistent issue i’m having is when the midi player finishes a song, it hangs GP. It might take 1-3 plays of the song to make it hang, but always by the 3rd attempt it does. if i stop the song in the middle, it appears i can restart it successfully infinite times. I do NOT have STOP enabled on the midi player. I used to, but this is one of the things i tried to change.
Here’s other things i’ve done to narrow down.
Read user manual
Searched forum and youtube videos
Exported one of my rackspaces doing this hang to a new .gig file.
Removed Kontakt as my plugins and replaced them with LostIn70s just as a test.
I cannot find a way to see any crash log. There doesn’t seem to be one. I did enable logging when starting GP, but it just made a log file which seemed to show the rackspaces loading and not much else.
So i have a .gig file with one simple rackspace in it with one instance of midi player playing 3 different tracks on 3 channels. The plugs are all ones that come with GP now. Last month, when using Tahoe, i didn’t feel the ocassional hangs were this consistent to just when a midi song ended, but i can’t be sure. But currently, it’s as simple as that.
Sure. Here it is. Apologies it doesn’t sound good, and its almost 3 min long. I just chose plugs that come with GP for a test. I didn’t care what they were. I normally have this rack using Kontakt Vintage Horns 2, Monark, and AbbeyRoad 60s Drummer. And Kontakt library too if i recall.
So just now, to make sure i’m not wasting your time, i tested this again before uploading it. I press the play button with the trackpad mouse on my Macbook Pro 2023 notebook. I let it play til the end. First time it finishes, i can click on the green play button again and it goes dark/grey. If i then just click play again and let it finish, which it does, as this point, if i click on the green button, it stays green and that spinnin wheel shows up in about 4s. I’ve never been able to play a song like this 3 times to complettion before GP seems to hang. Other songs/rackspaces as similar for me. Also, the songs ALWAYS complete, before they hang.
Yes(the global play button is how i always test it). I was afraid of this. My Mac came with Sequoia i think, which i updated to Tahoe. But after some spinning balls, i googled it and several friends said “Sonoma” was most stable and compatible with GP. So i downgraded and reinstalled everything from scratch. But i copied my .gig file over and loaded it. It found a few plugs i forgot about, so i installed those. And since using it for about 2 or 3 days, i’ve hit this issue constantly with my few midi songs. I have NOTHING plugged into my mac and have only used it for GP. I’ve only even had it for about 2 months. Its a factory refurb/like new. So unlikely to be a prob, but thanks for lending light to the fact it’s prob not the data or GP itself. I’ll need to think about how to troubleshoot this better.
Thanks again for your efforts. They help and are appreciated very much!!
Also, if the issue were my h/w, i’m not sure i’d expect it to be this consistent with regards to playing a midi file. It feels like some buffering issue given its nature. I already have “let GP” AND “NTKDaemon” have full disk access. So that should not be the issue. But maybe there’s some buffering issue/buildup when i’m using this midi player to play these songs, that’s accumulating and eventually overflowing. I’ll try playing the songs til just before completion and then manually pressing stop a few times. If i get half a dozen successes, then it would further point to something happening when the midi player runs out of material to play and takes some action. I’ve tested with auto STOP already in the past and it didn’t seem to matter.
maybe it’s just 64 samples is too small a buffer. I can’t imagine for a midi file, but i’ll increase it to 128. humans can’t detect 128 when playing. at least i can’t.
i’m using the macs headphone out btw. left side has click and right side has the mono instruments to my Xlive. I found using the xlive with Tahoe seemed buggy(although it was awesomely convenient when it worked), so i switched to the headphone out. I’ll back off the buffer size. But i want to find a happy medium so midshow i don’t need to change it when i play the keyboard live.
As far as we know, there are no issues with GP and Tahoe but that doesn’t mean there aren’t other issues with Tahoe and other plugins annd audio drivers among other things. Are you on an Intel machine or an Apple Silicon machine? If the latter, are you running the universal version of GP or the Intel version under Rosetta?
I’m on an M2. So Apple silicon. I chose the apple silicion GP, so as native as it can get. No virt tech or anything like that. I have a dell xps windows machine i run cakewalk on. i fly the midi files over to the MAC manually. I’m really intending to treat the MAC as a band member. He has one task, lol. I’m not using it for any other purpose.
In my latest test, i chose to change the kontakt plugs to only ones from lostin70s. Those came in GP, so, while i also don’t think i have any Intel AU’s, this test should rule that out.
I do not know how to capture a log. But i’ll try googling it. I’m a firmware eng so i’m comfortable troubleshooting computer issues. Usually at the UEFI level tho.
I was afraid of this. My Mac came with Sequoia i think, which i updated to Tahoe. But after some spinning balls, i googled it and several friends said “Sonoma” was most stable and compatible with GP. So i downgraded and reinstalled everything from scratch. But i copied my .gig file over and loaded it. It found a few plugs i forgot about, so i installed those. And since using it for about 2 or 3 days, i’ve hit this issue constantly with my few midi songs. I have NOTHING plugged into my mac and have only used it for GP. I’ve only even had it for about 2 months. Its a factory refurb/like new. So unlikely to be a prob, but thanks for lending light to the fact it’s prob not the data or GP itself. I’ll need to think about how to troubleshoot this better.