Does anyone else have issues using cc 32 with learn?

[Aurasphere]

Using Iconpad…toggle CC num 32 not being recognised with learn?

[npudar]

Note: the only CC messages that cannot be learned by Gig Performer are CC 0 and CC 32 as these two messages are reserved for bank selection.

Source: Widget Properties inspector

[Aurasphere]

I see…I have always used 32 with other hosts but I see what you are saying as it needs LSB if it is using banks…cheers

[npudar]

Here’s also a nice blog post
https://gigperformer.com/how-to-send-program-change-messages-out-to-hardware-devices-and-other-applications/

[Funky40]

would it be possible to have a scriplet that would transfer a incoming CC32 to another CC number ?

since my various novation launch controls XL have one knob set to CC32

[dhj]

You’d have to do it with a GigScript as this conversion needs to happen before the message enters the GP main midi handling system

[npudar]

At the Gig Script level you can convert anything: CC <-> PC, note events to CC or capture key strokes.

Some examples are included in the latest blog: Gig Performer | The most flexible MIDI processing

[Aurasphere]

I will just change the 32 to something other offset range but it would be nice to have a global place to filter particular midi ports…

[dhj]

@Aurasphere

but it would be nice to have a global place to filter particular midi ports

Yes, it’s called the Gig Script

Sure — some GUI on top of oft-used things can be worth while but the value of GP Script is to enable these kinds of things to be done before a GUI implementation of a particular feature is determined to be worthwhile providing.

[Aurasphere]

Gotcha
and makes complete sense…

[dhj]

Thanks – here’s the thing – we pretty much know about all these kinds of requests but the reality is we can’t do everything at once. If we waited until everything that everybody ever wanted was implemented, there’s be no product!

[Aurasphere]

I TOTALLY get that…the butter is best on one piece of toast as they say
Its a great product thats for sure…we all learn differently too…Im one of those painful flow chart guys…once I see that ie the abstracts, it all just works…bit blind atm until I can feel all of that.
Would be amazing to be able to host PD code ; plenty of external support then and get rid of support weight on GP though…simple robust language and carries the wiring paradigm that is part of GP

[David-san]

Here is a Gig workaround Gig script:

@David-san

There is perhaps a solution using this GIG script I made just for the fun :

var
  AxEdge             : MidiInDeviceAlias // Define AxEdge as a RigManager alias to the real controller
  state              : Integer=0;
  CC0_mem, CC32_mem  : ControlChangeMessage;
  PC_mem             : ProgramChangeMessage;
  time               : Double = TimeSinceStartup();  
  stateDelay         : Double = 10.0; //in ms
  //
  CC0_remap          : Integer = 1;  // CC0  will be remapped to this value 
  CC32_remap         : Integer = 33; // CC32 will be remapped to this value 

Initialization
  SetTimersRunning(true); // We could also stop the timers when not necessary at State 0
End
  
On ControlChangeEvent(m : ControlChangeMessage) Matching 0 from AxEdge

  Select
    state == 0 Do state = 1;
                  CC0_mem = m;
                  time = TimeSinceStartup();
    
    state == 1 Do InjectMidiEventViaRigManager(AxEdge, WithCCNumber(CC0_mem, CC0_remap));
                  CC0_mem = m;
                  time = time - stateDelay;
    
    true       Do InjectMidiEventViaRigManager(AxEdge, WithCCNumber(m, CC0_remap));
  End 
End

On ControlChangeEvent(m : ControlChangeMessage) Matching 32 from AxEdge
  Select
    state == 1 && (TimeSinceStartup() < (time + 2*stateDelay))
               Do  state = 2;
                   CC32_mem = m;
    
    state == 2 Do  state = 0;
                   InjectMidiEventViaRigManager(AxEdge, WithCCNumber(CC0_mem, CC0_remap));
                   InjectMidiEventViaRigManager(AxEdge, WithCCNumber(CC32_mem, CC32_remap));
                   InjectMidiEventViaRigManager(AxEdge, WithCCNumber(m, CC32_remap));
    
    true       Do InjectMidiEventViaRigManager(AxEdge, WithCCNumber(m, CC32_remap))
  End
End

On ProgramChangeEvent(m : ProgramChangeMessage) from AxEdge
  If state == 2
  Then
    state = 0;
    InjectMidiEventViaRigManager(AxEdge, CC0_mem);
    InjectMidiEventViaRigManager(AxEdge, CC32_mem);
    InjectMidiEventViaRigManager(AxEdge, PC_mem);
  End
  
  PC_mem = m;  
End

// Called by timer ticking
On TimerTick(ms : double)
  Select
    state == 1 && (TimeSinceStartup() > (time + 2*stateDelay)) 
               Do state = 0;
                  InjectMidiEventViaRigManager(AxEdge, WithCCNumber(CC0_mem, CC0_remap));
    
    state == 2 && (TimeSinceStartup() > (time + 3*stateDelay)) 
               Do state = 0;
                  InjectMidiEventViaRigManager(AxEdge, WithCCNumber(CC0_mem, CC0_remap));
                  InjectMidiEventViaRigManager(AxEdge, WithCCNumber(CC32_mem, CC32_remap));    
  End
End

It is supposed to convert all CCO and CC32 but not those part of a MSB+LSB+PC sequence. I couldn’t really test it because none of my controllers accept to send a CC0 or CC32. But, I have great hope that it should work.

[dhj]

@Aurasphere

Would be amazing to be able to host PD code ; plenty of external support then and get rid of support weight on GP though…

Well, there exists pdlib and somebody could probably write an extension using the GP External Script API to integrate PD into GP.

[Aurasphere]

This is exactly why I prefer assembler…LOL
Can you alias those functions easily on local scope?

[dhj]

@Aurasphere

Can you alias those functions easily on local scope?

I don’t understand the question

[Aurasphere]

@David-san

On ControlChangeEvent(m : ControlChangeMessage)

To abbreviate on local scope and possibly help newbs like me…lover of terse lol
eg
fMidiSend = InjectMidiEventViaRigManager()
where the function receives an alias
?

[dhj]

@Aurasphere

To abbreviate on local scope and possibly help newbs like me…lover of terse lol

I was completely confused — the topic is about using cc32 with learn and you’ve just thrown in a question that has absolutely nothing to do with that and is rather about a language feature in GP Script.

Please - it’s important to stay on topic and not have all these segues — it’s impossible to keep track.

GP Script questions should be posted on the GP Script category

[David-san]

@Aurasphere

This is exactly why I prefer assembler…LOL

If you don’t like my programming style in GPScript, I am not sure you would like my programming style in assembler. I am old enough to have programmed RISC and CISC CPU, micro controller as well as DSP in assembler, but I prefer GPScript which remind me my early days in Pascal

[dhj]

@David-san

which remind me my early days in Pascal

and as you know, Pascal was a major influence on the design of GP Script