Best practices with rackspaces and SAFP

Hello all!

For a few years I’ve been happily using GP in a very basic way to provide backing tracks and click for my band, one GP “song” per song, one rackspace per song. Apart from using markers on the SAFP tracks to cue mixer mutes and to change patches on my guitar FX unit, that’s about as far as it’s gone.

I’ve recently acquired a guitar with a MIDI pickup installed and have started using multiple rackspaces within non-backing track songs to change synth sounds and so on. All good but now I want to find a way to do this with the backing tracks. The problem is that changing rackspaces will cut the audio file off and as far as I can tell I can’t have different synth presets saved in different variations.

Clearly I need to rethink how I use GP and wondered what you would advise before I set to making changes for the whole set. One option would be to put the SAFP in the global rackspace but then I lose the “one song per song” simplicity of the existing setup. Another might be a second instance of GP for the guitar alone. Is there a simpler option that I am missing here?

Very grateful for any suggestions!

Why would using the Global Rackspace keep you from setting up “one song per song”.

You could still set up one song per song. You can connect any songpart to any rackspace you want. (Maybe I am missing something…).

No, it’s almost certainly me that’s missing something :grinning_face:

I shall investigate.

So it would be possible to have one SAFP in the global rackspace loaded up with a whole set of audio files, and have the relevant ones triggered from the individual songs in the setlist? Would this be easy to achieve?

Sorry if this is very basic stuff but I’m a rhythm guitarist :wink:

At least you’re not a bass guitarist :winking_face_with_tongue:

I’m pretty sure the answer is yes, but I have not done it.

Maybe someone can give you direction.

In the meantime I would research and watch videos on the Global Rackspace and search this forum and the manual on use of backing tracks, triggering actions in songs, the SAFP, etc.

Hey now! :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

I was wondering if you would have seen that :zany_face:

@dhj Oh I’m keeping an eye on you!!! :winking_face_with_tongue:

Yes, but whether rhythm guitarists or bassists we all look enviously at the keyboard players doing the clever stuff…

And talking of clever stuff, could anyone point me in the right direction on how to get specific audio files in the SAFP (or AFP) global rackspace linked to songs? I’ve been trying to read up about it but this is still baffling me.

Just a quick recap on what I’m trying to do:-

I’d like to move a set full of audio files (backing/click tracks) to the global rackspace so that I can use the regular rackspaces and variations in the setlist to change patches in my synth plugins. I’m unsure how to associate a setlist song with a specific audio file in the playlist so that when I move to song A in my setlist it will link to audio file A in the SAFP, B to B and so on.

Thanks very much for any pointers to help me get to grips with this!

@Bilbao This thread may help.

Thank you for this; that’s just what I was looking for. I’ve gone with linking the song part to the global rackspace SAFP track as explained in the thread you linked to.

Is there a reason why there isn’t an option to set an action to a song rather than a song part?

Success! As suggested in the linked post above I have used Song Part Actions to link to individual audio files in the Global Rackspace SAFP and all works as expected, apart from the following:

In my setlists I have some songs which are all live without backing tracks. If I move to one of these and press Play/Stop it will trigger the last-played file in the SAFP. Obviously I don’t need to press this, but in the heat of battle it’s more than likely that one day I’ll forget there’s no backing track and press play anyway, with hilarious/disastrous consequences.

For the moment I’ve created a short silent wav file and am linking to this in the song part actions of any song without backing track just in case Play is pressed, but what should I really be doing to avoid the SAFP files being triggered in this situation?

Thanks as always for everyone’s help.