Using an old Game Joy Stick for pitch n mod

I heard somewhere, that it is possible to using a Joystick game controller, to control pitch and mod. Has anyone here had success with that? I have tried a few interfaces, such as MidiJoy, Rejoice, Midi Yoke. I have verified that I get an XY data signal to those, buy have not managed to get it to work within GP4. I can see pitch and mod data, in the Global Midi Monitor, when I use my wheels on my Sampson Graphite 49, but can’t see anything come from these other apps that I tried to map as well thru Loopbe1 (i.e.)

Probably you saw that from “mightier amp” app from nux. The developer is using some libraries to convert HID interface to midi. If you want to do it without apps, you will probably will have to use and Arduino board to convert that input to usb midi or ble midi. Good luck with that. You will have to understand how midi protocol works via usb. With ble is easier but still the issue is the translation between different protocols. Somebody can correct me if I’m wrong

It might be easier from a design/software point of view to use an old DIN5 MIDI output, but I understand that USB is more practical.

But even with a DIN5 MIDI output you need something like an Arduino.

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A little research on the internet will give you some leads and elements to achieve what you want.

Here are 2 to give you an idea of the project:

Mini Pitchbend Joystick
a USB interface that converts joystick movements into MIDI messages

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I actually have what I think I need to do it. I was hoping someone on the community may have worked through it already and had some pointers. I have a CH Midi Joystick. I downloaded loopbe1 and in conjunction with Fergo Joystick to Midi, should be all I need. Fergo has crashed on me a few times. I also installed Midi Yoke by Midi-ox. I am just having a little trouble configuring these devices.
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So even with the software solutions I posted below, do you still feel I need something like arduino?

Could be, probably inside that device is some logic performing the same as possible with an Arduino.

Still working on it, as well as other projects. Thanks for the reply

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The Midi-Ox utility (for diagnostic and sysex libraries) and the Midi Yoke driver, although still working, have not been updated for 10 and 15 years.
I started using them with Windows 95 :smile: and sometimes use Midi-Ox for connection testing purposes but that’s it. Nice software, I remain very attached to this tool :blush:

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Thanks Hermon!

Wondering about anyone’s feelings about buying MiJoy Pro for 35.00 (which was actually developed by a gentleman who is now deceased due to Covid) through KVR Audio. Or buying Reaper for an additional 25.00 (which allows you to map Joystick to whatever, in a dropdown window for settings). My concern is that I don’t really know that I really need another DAW, just to get it to map to the joystick. Also concerned about extra load on the CPU with GP4. Your thought’s.

I am very interested in using a joystick as a pitch bend midi controller and have not yet found a solution.

I have just tried the demo version of MIJOY PRO which seems to work fine, but my enthusiasm fell when I saw that the plugin was 32bit. It is possible to bridge it to 64bit but it is useless because it is not even possible to buy it anymore and the developer’s website is closed.

I’m still looking for an equivalent but it’s not obvious.

As for the Reaper option, it seems that it only works for midi joystick, because the analog joystick is recognized as a remote control, and I didn’t manage to use it as a pitch bend controller.
Anyway I’m only looking for a GP use, for Reaper I use a keyboard wheel.

You also posted overhere:

Thanks for that info Hermon. It helps. Forgot about the 32bit sittuation.

If there was a 32bit solution I would still use it after doing enough tests to check its stability.
I still use a few 32bit plugins that are indispensable to me and for which I have not found a 64bit equivalent.
But of course I avoid that as much as possible.

For the moment I’m using a Roland EV-5 expression pedal that my son modified by installing springs at the front and back that allow the pedal to return to the middle position when released.
The problem is that due to the fragility of the pedal, the springs can’t be extremely stiff, so releasing the pedal doesn’t bring it back to the middle position exactly.
So I can’t use it as an accurate pitch bend.

In the long term I will ask my son to either build me a double mini joystick based on arduino that can be integrated on the guitar, or that he builds me with his 3D printer an expression pedal robust enough to integrate springs of appropriate tension.

I forgot to mention on response to your other post, that when I tried to use my CH joystick connected via MiJoy, that I had issues centering it with the pitch wheel. I also contemplated using a pitch dive pedal or software equivalent for pitch bending, but that ties up my foot for when I am playing drum parts. Maybe I just need to learn to play like Mike Daw… lol and if you don’t know who that is, I will send you a link.
Regarding a more sturdy pedal for your project, these are more expensive, but are the best volume and expression pedals.
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I also started to try an Arduino project for a breath controller, but found it way to complicated for my abilities.

Thanks for the information. I already have a VP JR on my “old school” pedalboard, but there is no way I’m going to drill through it to install resorts in it :grimacing:

Plus, for all those who do not know, it is a volume pedal. Of course it can be used in expression mode with a TRS/2TS cable but an expression pedal potentiometer usually has a value of 1M Ohm, the VP JR’s is a 250K. (500K for the stereo one and 25K for active one).

A 3D printed pedal would be just as solid and designed for the pitchbend mechanism and I’m sure my son would give me a bargain price if he had to make it. :wink: