Good morning!
Hope you’re having a great day.
Apologies if this is an obvious question(s) as I’m quite inexperienced with the software. I have attempted to study the manual but haven’t found anything about this so far.
I purchased GP a few years ago and had many been using it with my keyboard/VST’s for fast preset swapping for jam sessions, but not in a live environment. I’m currently running the latest build of version 4 but am interested in upgrading to 5, especially if there are any useful features that aid my use-case.
One of my musical ensembles is intending to start playing some live gigs and I’ve been reviewing the best software/setup to accomodate this. Due to project complexity we have a lot of backing tracks / click track and so my intention was to run them from DAW on one laptop and then use a seperate laptop for GP, however I’m now seeing if I can be more efficient and do everything in one machine/program.
I’ve managed to set up a simple proof of concept song with the backing tracks being loaded in the audio player and I’ve got that synced with the global metronome - great. What I’m trying to understand though is how I would go about syncing a project that has tempo changes? I see that you can set a new tempo when using different rackspace/setlist parts, whilst the audio remains playing in global rackspace, however that involves pessing buttons and hence isn’t precise enough. Is there an way therefore of syncing the tempo automatically against the timestamp of whatever is running in the audio player?
Similarly if I had different rackspaces/setlist instruments configured, could that be triggered in the same way?
Many thanks in advance.
Best wishes,
Matthew
Does this answer your questions? (especially the tempo sync part)
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Thanks very much David-san for your prompt reply!
That certainly looks like it would achieve the goals and it appears that I asked it at the right time given how recent the GP5 release has been!
A few further queries:
Is that same functionality available in the regular audio player? Can the streaming player play multiple pieces of audio at once? Or would one of the Stems needed to be in the streaming player to do the markers with the rest in the regular audio player? If that’s the case would those still be kept in sync via the global play button?
With respect to the timing, how precise can you get? Just conscious that exact timestamps could be non-round numbers. Alternatively could the event be specified as bars/beats rather than time?
Not for the moment, but I also hope it will be one of the next improvements of GP5, as it could be very convenient to multi-track record the band, e.g. during a rehearsal, to be able to use this multi-track record in the streaming player for virtual sound checking. Or by muting some tracks, to play the part of missing musicians during a rehearsal.
I am not sure I understand all of your questions, but regarding the streaming player, it seem to follow a changing tempo well enough to play live with it.
Many thanks for your thoughts.
I’ve managed to set up a proof of concept for this now.
One thing I’ve noticed is that there seems to be a slight difference in timings between Cakewalk and GP - I put a marker in to signify the transition into the chorus and second verse on my project based on the timestamp in Cakewalk, but this was slightly early in GP. I could tell this as I halved/doubled the metronome at these points and it went slightly out. I was able to manually drag the marker to the right place, but I’m just unsure as to what could have caused that?
Without being able to ear what you try to explain, it is difficult to figure out how out of sync it was. But, as far as I know,Cakewalk and GP synchronize using a MIDI clock and due to the nature of this MIDI clock, you cannot expect the most perfect possible sync. I don’t exactly know the kind of sync you are expecting, but you would probably get better results using Ableton Link with GP.
Hi David-san
Thanks again for your replies.
I’m not doing any midi syncing - I’m just comparing the timestamps in Cakewalk and GP5 of where sections transitions would be.
For example in Cakewalk the chorus begins at 01:32:05, however if I line up against this point in GP it doesn’t quite sound right, and appears to be more like 01:32:167
OK, I understand. Is there always the same constant delay between Cakewalk and GP?
Verse 2
Cakewalk: 2:09:24
GP: 2:08:630
That’s weird because in the previous example Cakewalk had the marker earlier, whereas this time round GP is earlier.
What I meant is: is the delay constant throughout the song?
Hi David-San
Apologies for my delay in replying.
The delay doesn’t appear to be consistent - no.
Best wishes,
Matthew
