Switching Song Parts with Boss FS-5U / Problem

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Hello everyone,

the Boss FS-5U pedal was recommended for switching between song parts, a friend of mine who is an MD from Utah works with it, but with Mainstage.

I have tried to set this up, but unfortunately I am having the following problem:

When I press the pedal, GP5 does not jump to the next song part, but skips several song parts or jumps directly to the last song part of the song.

What could be the reason for this? I have attached pictures (including the settings in Fantom 07) and a video.

It is very important for me to get this working, as I have to switch with my foot in musical productions.

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The one thing you didn’t show is what MIDI messages are being sent when you press the pedal - and that’s probably the critical thing to see

Open the global MIDI monitor, press the pedal button and upload the screen shot of the global MIDI monitor

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Here is the desired screenshot and a video. He writes several entries as if the FS-5U were a pedal that I slowly press down and not a “switch” that is simply supposed to switch on :-/

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I have already set the pedal range to 0 in Fantom, but that doesn’t seem to help either.

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So you’re using a continuous controller rather than a button. That means you’re sending out multiple MIDI messages. You should use a button that just sends a CC number out and 127 when you press it and 0 when you release it.

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Okay, so that means the FS-5U is actually the wrong switch? Then I’ll see if I can find a button or something similar from Boss.

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I don’t know anything about that device. Can it be programmed to just send ON and OFF messaes?

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I think that’s not possible and i should use the Boss FS-5L indeed.

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But I’m open to other suggestions for a pedal to switch between scenes. Ideally, it would be a single pedal so that I don’t accidentally press the wrong one.

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But you might want more than one pedal:

Song forward

Song back

Songpart forward

Songpart back

(At least think about that before purchasing).

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To be honest, I prefer to have just one pedal or switch to change song parts, as it’s completely dark in the orchestra pit and I don’t want to hit anything “wrong” :slight_smile: I’ll order the other pedal with the “switch” function.

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Understood. Your pedal should send a CC number with value 127 when you press it and 0 when you release it. Make sure you enable “Momentary” after you map the pedal to “Next” so that the part only changes when it sees 127

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From what I see that is not the issue one is a latching switch the other is a momentary switch, neither of which should be sending the data you show in the midi monitor. You need to configure your pedal input on the Fantom. Instead of Expression you want to send just a single CC

Maybe this can help:

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I use those pedals to switch through rack spaces. One thing I noticed is you do not have the “momentary button” selected on the mapping screen. I think it registers two clicks and will scroll past the space you want, if it is not selected. I have it circled on my attached image of your photo.

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Okay, you just saved me, now the FS-5U is working fine :slight_smile:

I don’t even know how to thank you, I spent almost two nights looking for solutions, etc. Thank you for saving me, thank you so much :slight_smile: :folded_hands:

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In an earlier post I explicitly said,

Make sure you enable “Momentary” after you map the pedal to “Next” so that the part only changes when it sees 127

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Okay, now it’s getting embarrassing. I had read that, but my brain didn’t retain it. Sorry, and thank you very much for your always excellent and prompt support :slight_smile:

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