Just wondering if it was at all possible to create a script or scriptlet that works exactly like the latch function in Omnisphere. I tend to use that function a lot and would like that same functionality for other plugins.
If you don’t know how the Omnisphere latch function works it basically latches your notes and turns off those notes when you hit the latch button again.
My use case specifically is that I will latch a pad or arpeggiated sound then latch it. I will then cut off any “midi on notes” from reaching the plugin by using a midi filter so I can leave the pad/arp latched and I can play another patch over the latched patch.
With Scripting and AutoSustainer that is possible.
So are you saying by modifying the script on AutoSustainer to fit my needs I can accomplish this? I did try that scriptlet but it’s meant to play new notes and turn off the old ones. I need the latch to work exactly like latching in Omnisphere by just holding out the chord, turn off “note on” via a filter and then I can play piano, etc over the latched pad or arp without reactivating or affecting the latched notes. Hopefully I’m making sense, I will see if I can find a youtube video showing this functionality in Omnisphere so you get a better idea of what I want to accomplish.
Here’s a pretty decent example. Fast forward to 2:10.
So for my understanding:
Latch means that all played notes keep playing until you press latch again.
This could be implemented by blocking the notes off message for a MIDI In Plugin when LATCH is enabled and then send all notes off for that plugin when LATCH is disabled
Ah! Don’t know why I didn’t think of that. I must have a mental block of some kind. I will experiment with that later. Thanks for your help. I’ll let you know how it turns out.
ANO.gig (29.5 KB)
Just replace the GX-80 plugin with one you have.
Thanks! Much appreciated!
So that was almost perfect. The only difference is that the Omnipshere latch function will also latch sounds that are currently being held out with the sustain pedal. So if I hit some notes and hold sustain down, then let go of the notes and still have the sustain pressed down to hold out the notes. Then I hit latch it will still latch the sound.
Not sure if it’s possible to make it happen that way but if it’s not what you provided was great and I can make that work. Thanks again!
Understand, now the widget when pressed of just sends All Notes Off.
Maybe a script which uses the AUTOSUSTAIN function would do the trick.
Or the All Notes Off message should only be sent when the sustain pedal is NOT pressed.
Let me think
Try this, not perfect.
When you play notes while LATCH is enabled, they do not stop sounding when you stop play.
Now press sustain - while LATCH is enabled -
hold sustain, disable LATCH => the sound is not stopped until you release sustain.
Quick&Dirty and far from perfect.
ANO.gig (30.1 KB)
ANO2.gig (30.4 KB)
ANO3.gig (30.7 KB)
So it’s basically doing the opposite of what I would need it to do. How it needs to behave is as follows:
Play the notes
Release notes while holding sustain so it keeps playing
Notes stay latched
At the same time it would need to retain the current functionality which is
Notes stay latched
Also, I noticed in your latest one it does this thing where it increases the velocity of the notes to 100.
I appreciate your help. If this has gotten too complicated then I think the first one you created should suffice. Thanks!
Hello, I think we are going to do Don’t You Want Me Baby (Human League).
So in one part toward the beginning (at later) there is a simple arp and two other parts.
(I only have 3 buttons that send midi data and I use them for back song, next song, and next song part)
So, the best would be if it I could latch the arp by hitting the note and unlatch by changing to the next song part.
Another way that would work almost as good would be to unlatch by hitting the note again. So, I guess the ANO.GIG would work like this if I connected a widget so it was controlled by hitting a key on my keyboard?
Actually maybe the best/easiest way would be to trigger the arp (latched) when I start a song part and end the arp when I move to the next song part?
In what is this different than using a widget in momentary to latch mode, mapped to a MIDI in block CC64 event ? (which is equivalent to a latched sustain pedal)
Yes, I could map to sustain (CC64) using a widget. But, in other cases, using an arpeggiator, I think sustain held the individual notes. So, it messed up the arpeggiation. (Maybe I am missing something whereby this would continue the latch, without sustaining the notes in the arpeggiator?)
But, in this case, I have the arpgeggiated sound I need in the Decatur 80’s Kontakt library I just bought/installed.
The sample itself is of the arpeggiated note. So, I think if I just use sustain, it will continue the arpeggiated note (without sustaining the individual notes in the arp). So, this should solve this issue (I hope. I still have to try it).
Thanks (as always)!
Am I missing something? The AutoSustain mechanism available through scripting does exactly this — i.e, notes stay on after you release all fingers and only starts new notes when you press some keys again.
No, David, I don’t think you’re missing anything. I am a bit needy trying to gather information before trying something new.
But, in this case, I don’t think I need to use scripting because the Decatur 80s’ library Kontakt sample is, itself, arpeggiatted (so no arpeggiator is used by me in triggering the sound, as far as I can tell).
So, just a standard sustain pedal should do the trick.