Does anyone know how to link a GP widget control to one of the 8 macro controls within SampleTank 4. I’ve tried opening the relevent ST4 screen using the ‘Learn Parameter’ button within GP’s Edit Mode/Mapping screen and clicking a macro button in the ST4 window that opens - but nothing happens. Also there are no specifically named Parameters in the ST4 parameter list as there are in ST3
It works fine in SampleTank 3
Thanks
What version of Sampletank 4 (VST or AU) are you using?
Normally (when host automation is available) you do not need to do special things in
the plugin just move controls in Sample Tank.
Maybe you have to enable host automation first in Sample Tank.
This I found in the user forum of IK Multimedia:
Automation can be handled by assigning specific parameters in AT so the host, in your case Logic, can see them.
If you have a look in the AT4 User Guide, there are detailed instructions on how to set this up in chapter 14, starting at page 84.
As a quick step-by-step -
- Right click on the element/control you want to automate e.g. volume pedal
- Highlight/select Assign Automation>Volume>Param 1
- Assign an automation track in Logic to Param 1
- Automation can now be recorded/drawn and played back
Hope that helps.
Found this:
IK Multimedia has issued an update for SampleTank 4 bringing it up to version 4.03.
Visit your USER AREA to download the plugin as well as the latest Instrument and Preset Updates.
Here is a list of some of the changes in 4.03:
An update: I downloaded and installed the suggested updates to SampleTank 4 - but it made no difference. I still cannot get a widget to link to one of the 8 off SampleTank4 internal macro (automation) buttons.
On Sample Tank3 it works with no problem - you just open the relevent ST3 screen using the ‘Learn Parameter’ button within GP’s Edit Mode/Mapping screen and then click the appropriate macro button in the ST3 window that opens However, in ST4 - it does nothing when you click on the ST4 macro button. Also - there are no specifically named parameters in the ST4 parameter list shown in GP Learn Parameter displayed list as there are in ST3 (justt vague: Parameter1, Parameter2, etc.).
BTW: Windows 10
I’m happy to do so if there are no other suggestions. But - ‘forwarned is forearmed’ - so are they likely to say ‘Gig Perrformer’ - unsupported - does it work in a supported product like e.g. Cubase, etc? A problem I have had with developers in the past.
Not sure we could give any meaningful answers to those questions 
Gig Performer is becoming the de-facto standard for using plugins in a live environment so it’s hard to ignore it these days.
Having said that - we have no control over SampleTank’s developers so we have no idea what they might say. They might be extremely helpful - you should try contacting them.
If SampleTank 3 works properly with GP3 but SampleTank 4 does not, then that suggests strongly a problem with SampleTank 4, rather than with Gig Performer. You may just have to push them a bit. Worst case, we can reach out to them (they know of Gig Performer) if necessary.
Did you try with Host Automation.
In Kontakt you can enable that nearly for each GUI control.
I think in Sampletank the same is possible.
As a quick step-by-step -
- Right click on the element/control you want to automate e.g. volume pedal
- Highlight/select Assign Automation>Volume>Param 1
Maybe they forgot some Macros to enable Host Automation.
I will contact IK Mult. I think David is correct - there is something wrong with ST4. I think the way VST parameters are exposed in ST4 is incorrect. In ST3 the parameters are exposed as Part 1 Volume, Part 1Pan, Part1 Macro1, etc [i.e. sensible]. IN ST4 it just says Parameter 1, Parameter 2 up to Parameter 1600. [not sensible]
OK - I eventally got a reply back from IK MM after several weeks - I’ll be generous and say that there was some finger trouble on their part. Anyway - here is their response in case anyone wants to know how to do it - as it does work after some phaffing around:-
They said:-
The way it works in ST4 is different now.
1. If you right click on any knob, etc you can Midi Learn or Midi Assign on this.
2. Once its assigned it will then go to the Param 1, Param 2, etc in order.
From my playing around - you also need to right click on each knob and set the automation value. Once something is assigned here then the Parameter value does get set correctly and GP can link to it.
So I have got it to work to my satisfaction.
Wait - are you learning MIDI parameters or host automation? The former is not recommended for many reasons.
I ‘think’ its OK … I’m not sure I believe IKM’s instructions above - mainly coz they don’t undertstand GP (so perhaps you need to reach out and educate them).
What seems to work is :-
Then when you adjust the midi control - the Macro 1 parameter in ST4 changes correctly.
Oh I see — I tend to avoid plugins like that — they only give you a very limited amount of host automation control. They haven’t really thought through the live performance concept where you might want to control arbitrary parameters at different times.
Yep - I agree. It did used to work sensibly in ST3 then they 'improved’ it for ST4
As I said - perhaps you need to educate them about GP - because they appear to have no knowledge of it.
Unfortunately the only way this kind of thing typically changes is when lots of users complain and/or ask for their money back!
I already asked last year about host automation and Syntronik.
They said, maybe one day they will implement it…