SampleTank 4 Macro Learn


Does anyone know how to link a GP widget control to one of the 8 macro controls within SampleTank 4. I’ve tried opening the relevent ST4 screen using the ‘Learn Parameter’ button within GP’s Edit Mode/Mapping screen and clicking a macro button in the ST4 window that opens - but nothing happens. Also there are no specifically named Parameters in the ST4 parameter list as there are in ST3

It works fine in SampleTank 3




What version of Sampletank 4 (VST or AU) are you using?
Normally (when host automation is available) you do not need to do special things in
the plugin just move controls in Sample Tank.
Maybe you have to enable host automation first in Sample Tank.

This I found in the user forum of IK Multimedia:

Automation can be handled by assigning specific parameters in AT so the host, in your case Logic, can see them.

If you have a look in the AT4 User Guide, there are detailed instructions on how to set this up in chapter 14, starting at page 84.

As a quick step-by-step -

  1. Right click on the element/control you want to automate e.g. volume pedal
  2. Highlight/select Assign Automation>Volume>Param 1
  3. Assign an automation track in Logic to Param 1
  4. Automation can now be recorded/drawn and played back

Hope that helps.



Found this:
IK Multimedia has issued an update for SampleTank 4 bringing it up to version 4.03.
Visit your USER AREA to download the plugin as well as the latest Instrument and Preset Updates.
Here is a list of some of the changes in 4.03:

  1. Improved memory and processor usage.
  2. Added a Streaming tab in Settings.
  3. Fixed an issue with crashes on FL Studio macOS.
  4. Fixed an issue with infrequent crashes on VST, AAX, and Standalone.
  5. Fixed an issue with possible missing font on Windows.
  6. Fixed an issue with authorization.
  7. Fixed an issue with recognizing the current ST3 path at first launch.
  8. Fixed graphic artefacts while resizing window within a host.
  9. Fixed an issue with automation defaults within a host.
  10. Fixed Strummer steps sync within a host at first load.
  11. Fixed an issue with instrument saving due to unsupported characters.
  12. Added a brief install guide post installation.
  13. Improved the search responsiveness in the Phraser.
  14. Fixed an issue with loading ST3 Multis that include imported legacy instruments.
  15. Improved visual feedback for database rescan.
  16. A Sound Library Update 1.3 is available. This fixes various typos, macro errors and Multi and sample issues and includes additional Multis. Please download and install the Sound Library Update 1.3 available in your SampleTank 4 Sound Downloads dropdown menu.
  17. General reliability improvements.


Thanks Paul - I’m using VST 4.02 - so the update may explain my problem.



An update: I downloaded and installed the suggested updates to SampleTank 4 - but it made no difference. I still cannot get a widget to link to one of the 8 off SampleTank4 internal macro (automation) buttons.

On Sample Tank3 it works with no problem - you just open the relevent ST3 screen using the ‘Learn Parameter’ button within GP’s Edit Mode/Mapping screen and then click the appropriate macro button in the ST3 window that opens However, in ST4 - it does nothing when you click on the ST4 macro button. Also - there are no specifically named parameters in the ST4 parameter list shown in GP Learn Parameter displayed list as there are in ST3 (justt vague: Parameter1, Parameter2, etc.).

BTW: Windows 10



Have you tried to contact the SampleTank developers?



I’m happy to do so if there are no other suggestions. But - ‘forwarned is forearmed’ - so are they likely to say ‘Gig Perrformer’ - unsupported - does it work in a supported product like e.g. Cubase, etc? A problem I have had with developers in the past.



Not sure we could give any meaningful answers to those questions :slight_smile: Gig Performer is becoming the de-facto standard for using plugins in a live environment so it’s hard to ignore it these days.
Having said that - we have no control over SampleTank’s developers so we have no idea what they might say. They might be extremely helpful - you should try contacting them.



If SampleTank 3 works properly with GP3 but SampleTank 4 does not, then that suggests strongly a problem with SampleTank 4, rather than with Gig Performer. You may just have to push them a bit. Worst case, we can reach out to them (they know of Gig Performer) if necessary.



Did you try with Host Automation.
In Kontakt you can enable that nearly for each GUI control.
I think in Sampletank the same is possible.

As a quick step-by-step -

  1. Right click on the element/control you want to automate e.g. volume pedal
  2. Highlight/select Assign Automation>Volume>Param 1

Maybe they forgot some Macros to enable Host Automation.



I will contact IK Mult. I think David is correct - there is something wrong with ST4. I think the way VST parameters are exposed in ST4 is incorrect. In ST3 the parameters are exposed as Part 1 Volume, Part 1Pan, Part1 Macro1, etc [i.e. sensible]. IN ST4 it just says Parameter 1, Parameter 2 up to Parameter 1600. [not sensible]