Relationship Between Variations and Song Part Panels/Widgets

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I often have songs that rotate back and forth between song parts. (I always only go forward to the next song part, never backward)

Often, these (let’s say two rotating) song parts should be exactly the same. Let’s say one song part is horns and the other is organ.

So, if I change the volume “horn” song part, I would like the same change to occur to all the horn song parts. Is there a way to “sync” song parts so a change in one of the widgets updates the other widget for the repeating song part?

I suppose if I just made the change (in let’s say volume) to the rackspace variation for that song part, that would be one way of accomplishing this (since I am basically just alternating back to those rackspace variations).

Thx.

Jeff

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You need to capture variation changes and then push the change to rackspaces.
Link: How to capture variation edits?

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Use different rackspace variations for Horn and Organ parts
and set the widget to “Ignore Variations”

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Yes, I think “Push Song Part Changes to Rackspace” does exactly what I need.

Thanks, all!

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Hmm, does the “Push Song Part Changes to Rackspace" have to be selected across the board? In all songs/rackspaces in all setlists? In all songs/rackpsaces in the setlist your working in? Or just in the specific rackspace variation/song part you are currently working in (my preference)

For some rackspace variations I want that tool.

But, for other rackspace variations/song parts, I would not want the changes to be pushed into the rackspace.

Thanks.

Jeff

PS: I would think best way to set it up as an option on a particular variation and song part. Then if you tried to adjust that rackspace variation or another song part linked to the rackspace variation, you should get a warning that the variation is linked to other song parts and changes will be applied to those songs. (But, I am still in the process of learning, so…).

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Push back to rackspace variations adjusts the widget value in the rackspace variation.
As the name says.
As a song part only references a rackspace variation this push back is reflected in all song parts which reference the same rackspace variation.

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Thank you for responding,

Yes, I understand this (I think).

But, if I check off “Push Song Part Changes to Rackspace" does that mean the going forward any changes in a other song parts (linked to other rackspace variations) will be pushed back to those variation?

Can I then change it back to default behavior (so in other cases, the change in a song part does not necessarily get pushed to the variation.)

In other words, does it basically apply while in effect and you can change it back and forth for different rackspace variations?

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Did you read this?

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Yes.

I guess what I am missing is whether this change in setting (in the Manage setlists contextual menu) is a universal change applied to all songs/rackspace variations going forward.

And if so, whether you can then change it back so changes in a song at a later time are not pushed to the rackspace variation.

(I am sorry if I am missing something obvious that is there.)

But, when I get home I will try to right click on the song part. There is probably something I am missing.

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Yes, that is what “Push Song…” means

There is no “default” behavior — you have to explicitly Push the changes back to the underlying rackspace. Otherwise, you should just use the snapshot mechanism to override the rackspace (actually the specific variation of a rackspace associated with the part)

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No - it’s a one-shot deal. This is explained in the documentation. Why not just try it?

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Okay, got it “one shot deal.”

I guess I try to get as much information before so I don’t create a bigger mess for myself.

Thanks.

Jeff

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Make sure to copy your gig file on another location before experimenting, to avoid mess :slight_smile:

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Always good advice! :slight_smile: