Rackspace individual gain/volume

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So I setup several rackspaces, each one built to let me play a specific song (including several plugins each rackspace).

When I created my rackspaces and played/practiced alone, the global volume seemed ok to me, but now, playing with the whole band, I found that some rackspaces are too loud and some others are to low and need to raise the volume/gain.

Instead of editing again every plugin volume in each rackspace, wouldnt it be easier if I could control, separatelly, the global volume of each individual rackspace?

If that would be possible, when rehersing with my band, I would simply adjust the volume (up or down) of the rackspaces, if needed.

Any tips on this?

RB

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You can add a To Global Rackspace block in your local rackspaces and route your signal to that block instead of the Audio Out.

Then in the Global Rackspace, you can add a Gain and Balance plugin and route the signal from the From Rackspace block to the Gain and Balance plugin and then from that to your Audio Out.

Add a dial or slider widget in the Global Rackspace and assign it to the Gain parameter of that Gain and Balance plugin.

You can then control the volume of all your rackspaces from that one widget.

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That’s exactly what I do: the last control in each rackspaces is a „Patch Trim“ (a stereo gain control) before sending audio to the global rackspace.
Typically it is set to 0dB. Most patches I only need to lower the volume.
If the trim goes out of +/- 4-5 dB within the rehearsals I start to rework/rethink the rackspace itself.

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Thank you for your help.
Unfortunatelly, that didnt solve my problem.
The solution you provided let me adjust de gain of any rackspace “on the fly” but it doesnt let me save the individual gain of every single rackspace.
When I change to the next rackspace the overal volume/gain will be the same I set for the previous rackspace.
What I need is a solution that lets me set and save different overall volumes/gains for each rackspace (so that rackspace 1 would sound louder than rackspace 2, for example).
I wish I can find a solution for that

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I understand.

I have made a small gig file to show how you can achieve what you want, using Widget Links and a Global Parameter Assignment. Take some time and look at the mappings of the widgets, and you should be able to apply this to your own project.

global_volume.gig (130.8 KB)

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@edm11
I loaded your gig file and created a 2nd variation in the 1st rackspace.
Then I set the shown widget to “Ignore Variations” and it was not possible that the widget remains unchanged when I switch variations.

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@pianopaul What happens when you Ignore Variations on the hidden widget also?

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Then the widget in the local rackspace is behaving like expected, but
the global widget is not set

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In my Gig file the solution was to use a little tricky rackspace script
MASTER is my main volume widget in the local rackspace

on Activate
 SetWidgetValue(MASTER, GetWidgetValue(MASTER))
 SetWidgetValue(MASTER, GetWidgetValue(MASTER))
end
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Does this only happen when you adjust the knob in the local rackspace instead of in the Global rackspace? I think when you use the Global dial, the value remains correct, which is what the OP was looking to do.

EDIT: You are right, it still remains out of sync. The script you provided is the solution to that issue.

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OK, I adjusted the volume in the local rackspace.
In my use case only a master volume in the global rackspace was not handy.
I set the volume per rackspace.

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So, I’m trying to understand your posts to get a solution to my problem (as does @pianopaul , I want individual volumes per rackspace) but I have no experience on the subject and am taking the first steps on GP. I also know nothing about scripting, so I am a litle bit lost :slight_smile:
Is there any way you could create a gigfile so I can try to copy it to my rackstpaces?

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The easiest way would be use a gain control just before your audio out in each rackspace.
Map a widget to this gain control and set the property ignore variations.

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I use a mixer in global rackspace with 8 channels with single gain setting (piano, e-piano, organ, synth, brass etc).
Then a pedal link to change volume on the full setup after the mixer before the audio out.
With this double setting I am able to drive everything as I want

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This is what I do. The last block in my rackspaces is usually a volume mixer or a gain & balance. When I’m setting up the sound I adjust things to get it to sound the way I want. Sometime later, to the extent it’s necessary, I’ll adjust the overall volume to be consistent across variations and rackspaces using that final mixer or G&B. I usually have a widget (or widgets) assigned to those volumes so that any time I call up a different rackspace or variation the volumes are fairly closely matched.

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