Not able to send program changes from GP tp hardware synth

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Hello,

I have read articles and the manual and tried to trigger GP to send program changes to my hardware synth.

I suppose my set up is a bit different because I am using a synth controller that is not really optimized for this.

Here is some background information form another thread if you want more information:

But oerall, I am making nice progress in getting things running. I am have a gig coming up where I plan to replace my internal horns (for Valerie and Obla Di) with NI Session Horns. I am able to move up and down songs in my setlist with hardware controller buttons and change variations with my 3rd available button. (I am able to trigger samples for the breaking glass at the beginning of You May Be Right via a soft sampler).

I plan to use setlist mode pretty exclusively for gigs. So, if I could get GP to change my synth presets/user tones when I change a song part, that would be a huge accomplishment.

I tried to follow the instructions in the manual and the September 29th article on Program Changes, but it is not changing the sound. (At one point I got a message that the PC would not work because Global Midi was set to remap incoming midi. So, I changes the setting but that did not make it work).

I tried sending the midi message form the song part properties window, but nothing happened as far as I can tell (the hardware did not change). I am using the appendix for my synth in determining the proper program and bank change.

I wonder if there is some relationship between handling incoming PC messages and outgoing that I do not understand. (I actually do not want GP to respond to incoming PC messages.)

Any guidance is appreciated? Should I install an app to monitor outgoing midi from GP to my synth? (It looks like the Global Midi Monitor only shows incoming midi messages?).

Thanks for any help.

Jeff

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Can you upload a small gig, so I could check?

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2nd Set Up04.03.22.gig (2.7 MB)

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[Thank you]

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OK, how looks your song part properties window?
I do not See any MIDI Out Plugin in your rackspaces.

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I tried that but I did not save it. I saved it in the attached gig file.

2nd Set Up04.03.PC CHANGE TEST.gig (2.7 MB)

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when you switch to song don’t stop believing song part intro, is pc message 90 sent to your Casio?ase
please deactivate sending pc messages from your midi out in rackspaces

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I have no indication of it sending pc message 90. I removed the program change from the rack space (I only added that when it did not work when I changed songs),

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Here is the updated Gig file, in case it helps.

2nd Set Up04.03.PC CHANGE TEST.gig (2.7 MB)

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In therackspace you send a bank select message with MSB = 1
This is missing in th song part

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I had done that at tone point. I believe it is there now. No change.
2nd Set Up04.03.PC CHANGE TEST.gig (2.7 MB)

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The above sentence should have been: I had done that at one point. I believe it is there now. No change.

I have tried various methods, the program change does not seem to be triggering.

Is there a way to see what midi data GP is sending out? (I have to step out, I will be back in a few hours).

Jeff

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Are you on Mac?

There is a utility called MidiMonitor you could use.

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Nope, Windows 10 laptop.

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But, I think in some of the GP materials it referred to a Windows equivalent. I’ll look into it.

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I opened your gig file and the song “Don’t stop believing” - part “Intro” is sending PC 90 on channel 1. That should work as long as you have your CASIO device conected AND it’s name did not change.

Sometimes on windows the device name may change.

What happens when you do connect everything and switch to this Song part?

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Thank you for confirming that. I will spend some more time on this on my end and let you know whatever I find out. (So far I am not getting any indication my synth is doing anything. But, it does work terms of playing and sending out control message etc).

Jeff

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By the way, the Casio sending midi data fine as far as I can tell. I am using it to play through GP/Kontakt (soft synth/sample libraries etc.) no problem and it is sending controller data fine as well.

Are you aware of any separate setting that just related to outgoing midi data (sent from GP to the Casio keyboard)?

Jeff

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I mean some setting relating to the connection to the Casio (since we know GP is sending the program change data). Like if there were some separate setting to recognize the keyboard to send data independent from the connection (which seems to work) regarding receiving data from the Casio.

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If your device is connected and configured to receive and react to incoming MIDI data it will work.

To confirm that data is going OUT from GP - look at the top right corner while switching rackspaces. There are two little LEDs. The green one lights up when there is INCOMING MIDI and a yellow one lights up when GP sends MIDI data OUT.

So when you switch rackapces you should see a brief yellow flesh there confirming that GP is sending stuff out. What happens to it later is something you have to figure out with your Casio device