Kiloharts Installer Update While Gig Performer was loading the gig file [Updated]

At a gig today, while I was loading the gig file, I got a message I think about updating a plugin I believe it may have been Valhalla.

I should have taken a picture or notes!

I just declined whatever they were suggesting I install (although I think it was Valhalla, I am not not so sure. I use the free Valahalla plug as part of a NARF soundpack).

Everything seemed to work fine. But, I suppose I should check the rackspaces that use the Valhalla plugin.

I just loaded my (same) gig file and did not get any message. Everything seems to work.

Anyone have any suggestions?
Did you get a similar prompt while loading GP recently?

Thanks!

Why are you connected to the internet when you’re playing a gig?

I don’t even think it was connected. For all I know it could have just asked if I wanted to “install” an update. (But, true, I have not bothered turning off wifi at gigs).

Generally, apps don’t know there’s an update unless they can check their home servers

I feel sure I wasn’t connected to the internet at the gig.

I really should have taken a picture of the screen. My bad.

Maybe it was downloaded at home (while connected to the internet) and then the message popped up next time I started GP.

I guess the main reason I am posting is to see if anyone experienced anything similar event or might have an idea what’s going (again, my fault I don’t remember what the pop up said, except it asked me if I wanted to do something (update? install?). It happened while the gig file was loading, likely when it installed the plugin triggering the prompt. I declined, then it continued loading the gig file and everything seems to function perfectly.

UPDATE:

Okay, I got the prompt again. It was for “Kiloharts Installer” not Valhalla. I guess it was just an update to the installer.

This time (I am home) I accepted it. It has now completed loading the Gig file.

Hopefully everything will continue working as usual.

The Kilohartz update window popped up again while I was loading a gig file at a show yesterday.

I just said “yes” to the update and everything loaded ok.

But if Im not watching it and do not respond to the prompt, it seems to cause the Gig file load to fail (this happened at a rehearsal).

I installed Kilohartz plugins as part of NARF.

Anyone have a similar issue? Any thoughts?

That hasn’t happened to me. I have Phase Plant, Snap Heap and all of the Essential snap-ins installed (I haven’t purchased any of the Premium snap-ins yet). I just ran the kiloHearts installer and couldn’t find any reference or option to automatically run. It doesn’t show up in Windows Startup Apps or Processes tabs in Task Manager. I have received the update window you referenced when I manually started the installer AND there was a version update available, which I, of course, allowed to run. If you’re on a Mac, I can’t help you.

Thx for responding. I’m on Windows 11.

Have you reached out to Kiloharts?

Not yet. I guess I’ll do that. (I thought it was a one shot thing that was done).

The developer suggested I do a “clean reinstall” of the Kilohearts Essentials, following the procedure below. But, I want to be cautious before I do it. (I use it without any “third party content banks”.) Basically I just use it exactly as directed by Narfsounds.

So, dumb question. If I do a clean install in the same location (default), should I expect that everything in the Gig File would work. (I could rescan the plugin, no problem). But it should just return its “saved state”?
Any suggestions to before I proceed? Thanks!

I don’t have that particular plugin, but I’ve done re-installs on several others and all went well. Always re-scan with the Plugin Manager after re-installing.

Backup, backup, backup.

I have not had it happen again for a bit. I will wait to see if it occurs again before reinstalling.

It happened again during this gig. I’ll try reinstalling on Sunday…

I can’t find anything in Kilohearts installer or plugins that would cause their installer to run, other than clicking on the .EXE file. They have both online and offline installers, but it shouldn’t matter which one you have.

You have said that Kilohearts plugins were installed along with NARF Sounds. The only thing on his website that is GP5 related is his packages for Arturia’s V Collection. Kilohearts isn’t mentioned. I think this is something caused by whatever you installed from NARF, not Kilohearts.

So:

  1. What NARF products have you installed?

  2. How/when did Kilohearts show up during the NARF installation?

  3. What Kilohearts plugins were installed? Just their free Essentials snap-ins that NARF might be referencing in their V Collection presets?

I think you need to troubleshoot your NARF installation. Something is triggering the Kilohearts installer and it’s not Kilohearts doing anything automatically.

I suggest directing your issue to NARF himself.

I don’t see how it could be caused by NARF.

NARF just directed me to the Kilohearts page to download and install Kilohearts essentials.

I’ll try a clean reinstall (suggested by Kilohearts) and report back.

The good news is at a show I will see that it stopped loaded due to the prompt and just say “yes” to the prompt and everything seems to work fine. (If I walk away and don’t see the prompt, it seems the the Gig file load fails after a while and I have to restart it).

I can only think of two possibilities

  1. It sounds like the very act of loading that plugin is enough to trigger something inside the plugin … maybe it’s doing a check for updates and there’s an update

  2. if you are on Windows, maybe something is detecting an incomplete install, thereby triggering a “repair”? (I don’t really know windows enough so this is speculation)

Is the computer connected to the Internet? If so, what happens if you are not connected to the Internet and you load the gig? Gig Performer itself has no idea what the plug-in wants to do. Have you reached out to the developer to ask them what might make their plug-in automatically prompt to install?

Yes, I reached out to the developer. He suggested a clean reinstall:

I will do that tomorrow (I have a gig tonight).

I probably do not check that Wifi is off for each gig. But, it is intermittent, so if I keep Wifi off and it does not do it, it does not really prove anything (at least not initially).

I’ll touch base with what happens after the Kilohearts reinstall (tomorrow).