OK, let’s assume a single Rack. We have 2 keyboards with 5 midi outputs in addition to VST. For example Organ, Synth 1, Synth 2, Synth 3 and Synth 4. In one variation I need Keyboard 1 to Synth 3, in another variation, Keyboard 1 to Organ, In another Variation, Keyboard 2 to Organ and Keyboard 1 to Synth 3. understands ?
I imagine an intermediate script that is managed through a widget, but it cannot be programmed
Well, it can be done with different racks, but what I’m looking for is a single rack, with different variations, and with each variation change the output is directed to the different instruments. The question is if it is possible and how. If you can’t, OK, I just thought it could be a good tool.
Mainly because you’re actually wanting to change the topology – i.e. actual connections — there’s no reason why you have to have one rackspace per song — you can have multiple rackspaces per song.
That said, if you really want to restrict yourself to one rackspace per song, then you can add buttons and map them to the bypass parameter of your MIDI In blocks and then set the buttons to the appropriate values in each variation
If that’s how you want to do it, sure, it can be done. Just keep in mind that when you do the midi re-routing after changing variations you’re going to have to contend with “what if I’m holding notes when I change variations?” The note on events are sent to one destination when the keys are pressed, and the note off events go somewhere else after the variation change.
There are multiple ways to handle issues like this, but the more you start layering in PC messages and such the more complicated trying to handle that sort of thing gets.
Based on your description, if it were me I’d map an actual song you are going to perform to a song in a GP setlist. Within that Song there are Songparts, and those Songparts can map to Rackspaces and Variations as you see fit.
GP is designed around that concept. It’s very flexible, though, so if you want to force songs into Rackspaces and Songparts into Variations within a Rackspace it can be done. The only downside is that it will make things more difficult and it’s not clear to me that you gain anything from it.
Hello Vendes, I have been thinking about the problem of releasing the notes before the redirection. I was thinking about an off message at the time of the change. The point is to combine VST with different midi modules through a MOTU brand midi equipment, and change the sound (Synth) as I change the variations. I’m going to try my rudimentary way of programming and then I’ll upload the script so you can help me improve it. Thank you all
That’s good behavior if that’s what you want. That’s generally not what I want, so I tend to use midi filter blocks when I’m doing the sort of thing he’s talking about.
In my case I have the midi filter blocks set to filter note-on events, so when the filters are bypassed the note-on events go through. When they’re un-bypassed the note-off events still make it through but the note-on events don’t.
The devil is in the details, so I suppose he’ll try some things and see how it goes. The nice thing about GP is there are a variety of ways to approach it, plus scripting and writing your own extensions if you really want some very specific behavior.
I think it is the right behavior for beginning users so that they don’t run into stuck note problems when hey are just getting started. Once a user gains some experience, they can use more advanced techniques as needed.
Are you aware of what a “variation” actually is, how it works, what it can do and what it can’t?
From what i’ve read so far, i guess you expect variations to do things, they are not designed for…
Like my forum-buddies already mentioned, it might be possible to work around the variation concept (with tricks and scripting and…), but it will make things much more complicated than they had to be.
Hello schamass, I am clear about how a variation works (I’m not that new). In fact I use them in several topics. My point was if you can make the same keyboard send midi messages (notes, CC, etc…) to different MidiOutBlock outputs with a kind of switch with which you can select which one to send a message to, it is true that there are issues like the blocking of notes (which I had not considered) and other possible problems. I imagined something like a MidiInBlock to a monswitch with 5 midiOutBlock and through a widget choose where to exit, I will continue investigating since I am not a programmer