I have a rackspace that gives me hammond organ on the upper keyboard and “piano” on the lower keyboard. The organ, of course, has many of the usual clonewheel parameters exposed as widgets, and the “piano” is actually a song-specific mix of six different instruments (grand piano, upright piano, rhodes e.p., wurlitzer e.p., clavinet, and DX7 e.p.), where the selection and mix is defined in widgets, along with a few other options such as tremolo, phaser, drive, and chorus. I figure this one rackspace will suffice for at least fifty of the songs in my band’s setlist. I’ve decided not to create rackspace variations for each song; instead, I’ll use song-part snapshots to store the widget settings needed for each song.
My question is this: let’s say I have a song that uses organ and upright piano and has multiple song parts. For this song, the piano should sound the same across all the song parts, but the organ drawbars are variable from one song part to the next. Now, let’s say I’ve spent a lot of time getting the organ sounds right in each song part, and then I realise that I want to modify the piano sound. I want the piano to be identical in all song parts, so do I have to go to each one separately and make the same changes to the piano widgets? Or is there a way to specify that some of the widgets should “ignore song parts”, just as in the panel view one can specify that some widgets “ignore variations”?
I am not aware of such an option.
But what does that mean?
When in the widget is not set to “Ignore variations” then the widget used in a song part will get the va.ue which is defined in the variation.
I would want a widget that “ignores song part variations” to have the same value in all song-part snapshots within a particular song. In other words, whenever I save a snapshot, I want all widgets that “ignore song parts” to get updated in every song part snapshot on that song (but not in any song parts from other songs).
Why not set the widget value in the rackspace variation?
You can push back a widget value from setlist view to rackspace variations.
Details in the user manual
But then this value is used for other song parts which use the same rackspace variation
Is there any hope that Ignore Variations can be per song? I’m really getting stuck on this one that if I have Ignore variations on, it ignores changes even when I change songs
Once you get a setting you like for each song part, I would just save the setting for each song part using the “capture variation/snapshot” tool. Does that not work for you?
(I feel like I am always tweaking song parts, especially mixer settings.)
Ahh, no. At least in the cases I can think of, I need to have it ignore key after I set the key across all song parts, ignore variations on whether or not I have the pitch drop on across all song parts, and which keyboard patch I am calling up across all song parts. Thru 5 song parts or per song, across 100 songs lets say, getting it all correct and saving each adds up really quickly! That’s 1500 changes to get exactly right, a lot of clicking and a lot of time. If it were something like a volume or gain setting, the pain and accuracy requirements would be even worse
Any hope we can get an “ignore song parts”? So it acts like “ignore variations” but only within a song and when you change songs it goes back to whatever value was saved in that song?
Yeah, it can be a workaround, but a very time consuming one and wouldn’t work for live changes.
Lets say I want to hit my pitch drop pedal because the singer is struggling with a certain song that night. If I turn off ignore variations and use set lists, I have to hit that drop switch every time I change parts, which of course would be impossible to do in time.
I can do snapshot captures if I know ahead of time, but man that’s a lot lot lot lot of time across a pile of songs
