Gp relayer/ instances on windows

Hello,

I sold my Mac book computer and now only have a Windows.

I wasn’t paying much attention to the instances and relayer for a gig performer as the MacBook worked really well. Circumstances happen and I had to get rid of it.
Is there any direction or help that I can get as I’m trying to work it out but going through some difficulties.

… do I need a to use a special asio driver to use GP relayer with multiple instances?

… Is there any topic in the forum that could assist me in setting up GP relayer with multiple instances?

Thanks in advance for your help…

What do you mean by multiple instances?
Multiple Instance of Gig Performer?

It would be easier if you could tell us more about you difficulties.

If your difficulties are that you cannot run two GP instances concurrently because you don’t have a multi-client ASIO driver, the issue is indeed related to Windows and you audio interface driver that has to be multi-client which is not the cas for all audio interface driver in Windows. But again, we don’t know if this is your issue and in this case which audio interface you own. IF this is your issue, this could help:

Thanks for your quick response.

I have a couple multi client audio cards.

I checked after reading your response to find out what multi client means.

I have a Roland Fantom 0 which says its multi client 16x3 (not sure what that means)

I also have a focusrite with 4input. It says that it is multi client also.

I prefer the fantom as I don’t have to then carry an Extra audio interface.

I think I can get up to two instance of gig performer going with the fantom. I’m aiming for four.

Ill be looking into the multi client driver deeper as I think your advice helped tremendously.

Was on the road whole day today and just got back so hopefully tomorrow will be able to delve deeper into it.

Thanks again for your help and looking forward to any assistance…

Well, I still suppose you are a facing non multi-client ASIO driver issue, but I am still not sure as your issue is still not clearly described… :thinking:

Hello.

Thanks again for the response.

My issue is morphing.

My first issue, and the main one, was multi client. But that wasn’t in my mind at the time as I was trying to use my laptop as the audio card.

When you asked about the multi client audio I immediately went on the internet and found out I have a decent number of multi client audio devices. Including (Fantom 0, umhc404hd, focusrite)

So your question solved my multi client issue.

My problem now is the issue of irregular crackling in the audio.

It would work fine for a while and then suddenly let out a small glitching sound.

I would like to read the article on optimizing your windows computer and see if I could address this issue.

I would also greatly appreciate any advice in this area.

Regards.

Yes, before talking further, start to optimize you system:

Thanks. Will do.

I also noticed this morning that with the focusrite I can open all the necessary instances of gig performer without having audio clicking issues. I think that might be a secret power that my fantom 0 audio card is missing.
I will also experiment with sending all the gp instances to the focusrite sound card while using GP relayer to send their sound to my main instance which will then be sent to the fantom 0 and see how that works. I’ll report back with my findings.

The secret power is perhaps that you set a larger buffer on the Focusrite than on the Fantom…

I don’t know what you mean by « sending all the GP instances to the focusrite ». You can use the focusrite as audio interface for several GP instances, but you don’t « send » GP instances. Furthermore if you only use a GP Relayer as an audio output rather than using a real audio interface output, the audio interface you use doesn’t really matter.

My experience so far has been quite interesting. To answer your question I have been careful to make sure all the buffer sizes are the same. I prefer 128 at 44100.

So I’m sure it is not a buffer issue. The direct or the drivers for the focusrite works the best.

I am using a wind GPD max 2 with 32 gigs of RAM and a 2 TB hard drive it clocks up to about 3.7 GHz.

If I use my Roland fantom as the audio device I can open up to three instances at the same time without problems. The minute I go beyond that it begins to crackle.

I understand that once I’m using GP relayer it doesn’t really matter where I send the order for instances in terms of available other devices but the paragraph above stands the same that after I add or open additional instances I begin to have crackle problems.

If I’m using the focusrite I can open as many instances as I choose or as a computer can handle and I don’t have the same crackle issues. And this is regardless of where I send the other instances in terms of all the output the GP relayer works perfectly without issues as was pointed out in a response.

I then decided I will test out my radial key largo (which I find to be a quite solid device both in design and operation) this is despite the negative reviews I heard about how it works on Windows system. Because it worked well with my mac I wanted to see how it would work with Windows for my own self. And also it is easier for me to have direct control over the internal routings compared to the focusrite

This is my findings.

On my WinMax GPD 2 once I followed the instructions of the manufacturer by loading the A s i o drivers first followed by installing asio4all it then performed as good as the focusrite using the asio4all drivers I’m not it’s original drivers.

I can then open as much instances as I like without having crackles and pop.

The WinMax is an AMD computer. So I decided to continue in my experiment I will try the radial with my I-9 desktop computer.

To my surprise I was unable to even load the driver and get it going. My conclusion / belief is that either the radial drivers work horrible on Intel processors. Of course I’m not perfectly sure about this but this is my experience so far.

Not that I have the radial functioning well on my laptop GPD I will continue to proceed to use for my performances until I’m able to purchase another Mac computer.

The ASIO4ALL driver has an awful latency, rather use the proprietary Focusrite ASIO driver which should also be multiclient.

Hello

I think I made a mistake in my writing. The last paragraph should have read

“Now that I have the radial functioning properly on my WinMax”

The Radial works well as expected when using the asio4all along with the ‘proprietary radial drivers’ without latency on the amd powered winmax.

I did do some more experiments over the weekend though with my i9 and the radial interface.

I tried for hours every thing I could in relation to switching drivers around, restarting the computer after installing the drivers etc and my desktop would just crash gig performer.

So I decided to try a different software to see if I what would be the result.

To my surprise the radial worked flawlessly on the intel i9.

So it seems that there is a problem with gig performer, the intel processors and the radial drivers.

Again I must say this has never been a problem with my M1 Max computer. Only moving to windows and for that matter that is windows on intel i9…

I did this only as an experiment to find answers that might help intel windows users make a decision as whether or not to purchase the radial interface. I prefer the mobility of the amd winmax and so that is the computer that I will be using for the time being. I also prefer the hands on knobs of the radial compared to the limited physical knobs of the focusrite and so I’m happy that I got it working well.

Hope this was helpful…