East West Opus - notes stuck SOLVED

Hi everyone,
I just bought East West Opus Hollywood Orchestra and Strings 2.

But I have a big problem, since I get a lot of hanging notes. Especially when I’m using my expression pedal to control dynamics.

I don’t have this problem with any of the other plugins I use - Omnisphere, Keyscape, Spitfire, Kontakt etc.

I’m preparing a musical show (Sting ‘The last ship’) and rehearsals starts on Monday. But it is not at all reliable at the moment.

I’m only sending on midi 1 (not omni) and I use predictive loading. The cpu never exceeds 50%. Most often it is between 20-35%. I remember having weird issues 2 years ago with my Kronos and volume pedal, with overload of cc information from multies. But now I’m playing Roland RD-88 which is way simpler.

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MacBook Pro M1 Pro 2021 w. 16.gb ram
EW Libraries on Samsung SSD T7 2 tb with 200 gb remaining space.
Newest software on Opus and OS.
GigPerformer 4.8
I have used the soundcard in my Roland RD-88 for convenience but will try switching to my old Babyface tomorrow, even though I am certain this won’t solve it.


I know Gig Performer is not supported officially from East West, but didn’t think that would be an issue, since I haven’t had this issue before.

Suggestions are very welcome. :pray:t2:

Maybe you could reach out to the plugin developer?

Also tell them to support officially Gig Performer.

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Have you tried the different formats of the plugins? (If available, of course.) VST, VST3, AU…

Also, have you fired up a blank gig file and loaded it in a minimal setup to test?

Pete

Send it back and get the stuff from Spitfire – it’s much better!!!

I already have. We have a teams meeting online tomorrow, and I will encourage them to support GP.
It seems they are very focused on production as supposed to live playing, but their strings sound blow me away and I would love to play it live in s reliable matter.

I’ll be back with an update.

The Spitfire stuff is great for live performance - some of their libraries are very expensive but Albion One is very good - we have some very serious producers using Spitfire for live performance.

That’s a good solution. I’ll try that tomorrow in case the problem doesn’t exist when I use Opus stand alone outside GP which I haven’t tried. Otherwise the problem is clearly on their side.

All right - so here is what has happened.
I tested Opus software in stand alone mode and didn’t have a problem. Then I did some trouble shooting with a opus in a clean version of Gigperformer - still no problems.

I had an suspicion that it was caused by my expression pedal, which was correct. In my rack space I had made a expression pedal widget and send it to Midi Omni cc 11 (in some instances). The widget was controlled by my physical Roland expression pedal and since it already sent out cc 11 from the keyboard output, I think some kind of doubling effect was caused.

As soon as I deleted the widget the problem was solved, and I was still able to control cc 11 via my Roland pedal, without any further mapping. The only downside was that I lost the value curve feature in the rackspace.

I now have a fully working awesome sounding string patch with a combination of Opus and Spitfire. It’s really immersive and will suite the musical perfectly.

The whole way through I have had really great support from East West and from you guys. Thanks a lot.


In terms of offiial Gig Performer support from East West they responded with this message:

As far as officially supporting it, it’s a bit more complicated in that it would be hard to know exactly what to test for it - we make sure the AU, VST, VST3, and AAX are all working in any other DAW so in theory it should just work in GigPerformer as well - but we’d have to internally discuss what we would be testing with new releases in a program that we can’t have saved midi data to recall/check against previous functionality the same way.

Best,
Michael

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In other words, they aren’t interested in supporting live performance.

I wouldn’t say so.
It works perfectly now and the fault was never caused by Opus / East West. At the same time they have been really helpful to get my issue solved.

Most of the vst’s I own don’t have a official support ‘label’ for Gig Performer.

@madsgranum I’m glad that it functions properly, as many plugins do that don’t ‘officially’ support GP.
However, this response tells the tale—that A) they aren’t currently testing their software in environments where data isn’t saved, and B) that they don’t currently have any plans to do so.

Wonder if it is worth it to try to get someone from GP and Opus/East West to touch base with each other (?) (Above my pay grade!).

Can you please create a small gig file with the expression pedal widget that reproduces the stucked notes issue?
I want to try to reproduce it here.

That would be a great way to go.
I also tolder EW that I thought they should give live performance of their libraries more attention.
I’m really happy for what I can accomplish with the combination of Gig Performer and East West (and all the other plugins I have).

It’s truly next lever compared to any alternatives that I know of.

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Here you go:

Strings.rackspace (699.9 KB)

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