I used to use Ableton Live, but I’m gradually migrating my worship keys rig to GP. Unfortunately, many of the patches I use come from a pack called Sunday Keys, and that’s probably the last thing keeping me tied to Ableton. All of these patches are based on samples they use within Simpler with different built-in effects.
From what I’ve seen, the sample files are available, so my question is: would it be possible to “convert” these patches to GP? Is there a systematic way to do this and get the closest sound possible? I’ve tried recreating them manually using TX16Wx, but as a beginner, I ran into several issues and would probably need a “recipe” to make it work… if anyone needs more information I’d be glad to provide it.
Thanks for mentioning this thread! I just looked at it and it will be useful for other issues hahahaha. But specifically on this issue I mentioned, I haven’t found anything very enlightening yet
Have you tried the Auto Sampler in GP? I’ve never used it but seems pretty seamless.
As a side note this is exactly why I steered clear of those types of templates such as Sunday Keys. While they sound great there is no easy way to move those sounds to other hosts as they use stock Ableton/Mainstage plugins. I generally get the presets those companies sell for 3rd party VST’s (e.g. Omnisphere, Kontakt, etc.) to avoid this issue.
Anyway, I tried the Auto Sampler and it worked well for some sounds (synths and “short” duration sounds in general), but not for infinite sustain sounds, like pads, for example.
I agree with you about these templates. Maybe I didn’t clarify enough, but the patches I was referring to are the freebies that Sunday Sounds people make available. This is why I do have access to the samples files. But maybe I should stop trying to convert the patches and, as you said, build them directly in a plugin (much more versatile).
Would be sooo great!!! When I started using VSTs everything seemed very complicated. That’s when Sunday Sounds freebies came in handy. Unfortunately now I have to migrate them and don’t know how
But I’ll figure out! Thanks guys!
What sample playback system are you using? In Kontakt (which is my goto, albeit not cheap) and probably in TX16Wx (even the free one) you can probably set a loop for the infinite pads. It’s never trivial to set loop points because you have to get them “just right” to minimize clicks at the loop point but it’s generally doable.
Alternatively, for pads, there are tons of plugin synths that produce decent pad sounds, some free, some commercial, you just have to look around
Out of curiosity what are the patch names you are having trouble trying to duplicate. I purchased the Sunday Keys template for Ableton a long time ago and wondering if I have them in there.
Modern Bells and Simple Slide Lead are probably the ones I’m trying to duplicate. But there are many nice pads also, for example: Breath Pad, Calming Pad, Dream Pad, Drifting Soundbed. I think all of them are from “Patch of the Week Vol 1”.
Just thought that if I gave a little more information you could help me better.
Basically, the patches I want to recreate has several samples that I have access to, as in the screenshot below.
These samples go inside an instrument rack with Simpler and various effects. Take a look at this one, for example. (Further to the right there are other effects besides EQ Three, such as Compressor, Delay, Reverb…)
My idea for duplicate them would be, basically, to “dissect” the sound, copying the Simpler settings into another sampler (preferably a free one) and adding the effects to get a sound as close as possible to the original patch. The effects aren’t a problem, since it’s not too difficult to look at the parameters they used and recreate them in a 3rd party plugin. My biggest problem was configuring the sampler itself, since I couldn’t find one as intuitive or configure it so the sound behaved like the original Simpler. That’s what I meant with “recipe” in the first comment
Anyway, in the worst case I’ll give up this idea and just look for similar sounds in plugins I already have. Thanks all of you for the help!
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