Advice Handling Syntronik Saved State Issues

I lost all my saved states in Syntronik on multiple rackspaces. (IK is not so strong in bug fixing or avoiding bugs in the first place.)

I think this is more likely to happen if I do not use those rackspaces for a while. Maybe it happens as a result of a Windows update? Maybe I am wrong, but I feel comfortable if I go through them within a few days beforehand, this won’t happen at a gig.

I think its a bit quicker to find the sound (or maybe a similar one) on Syntronik than replace it with V Collection. So, that is what I am doing. But going forward, I am going to lean heavily toward use of V Collection, which also has the benefit of using less ram.

So, I am spending a few hours going back and finding them (or maybe replacing them if I find a sound that works). I wish I had at least written down the name of the presets, which I usually only tweak moderately.

So, now I AM writing down the name of each preset in case this happens.

It is probably also a good idea to save the preset, since Syntronik seems to have a glitches in returning to its “saved state”.

So, any thought (pros and cons) of saving the preset in Syntronik versus as a preset in GP. (I was inclined to do the former, but figured I would throw this out there).

Thanks!

Jeff

So GP User presets capture the state of a plugin and as long as an update of a plugin can handle loading the state from a previous version of that plugin, there’s no issue. But we have no control over that so if a newer version of a plugin can’t handle older state, all bets are off.

Now, in principle, if a plugin has its own preset management, then the plugin should be able to handle loading a preset from an older version but obviously that also assumes that the plugin was properly developed to support that. Again, we have no control over that.

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Thanks, David.

I don’t even think there was any change in the version of the plugin (Syntronik 2). I have no idea why it stopped loading in the saved states (I have no doubt it is not a bug with GP).

I guess the primary backup should be saving the preset within Syntronik itself because eliminates the issue of loading in a saved stated.

If I wanted to go even further, I suppose I could do both. (Along with having notes of the name of each Syntronik preset).

Jeff

I’ve found the same issue. I have made absolutely no change to my gig file and yet … I started using SampleTank and Syntronik recently… found all the right sounds for my gig, saved the file on a regular basis, I now go to start rehearsing the whole show and have found that ALL SampleTank and Syntronik sounds are blank. The VST is there but there are no sounds loaded within … I am so Peed off …

Has anyone come up with the solution or is this a bug within IK?

I am using Syntronik also and do not face the issue.
I am on Mac Intel

me too … everything else is perfect.

Do you have samples on an external drive?

What version of Syntronik are you using?
The samples are located on the internal ssd

I bought Sampletank4 MAX and it came with a bunch of things… Syntronik2

Do all synths of Syntronik face the issue?
Is there a difference between Syntronik V1 and V2 patches?
With V1 and V2 I mean the patch versions and not the version of Syntronik
So does the issue occur for both ?

OK. I have mine on an external. I only have 350GB left on the internal SSD. I have all KONTAKT on internal, so It took quite a bit of space

It seems to have happened to EVERYTHING ST4 related.

I’m not sure. I just loaded Syntronik2 … I’m not sure I’ve actually tried V1

Do you load Syntronik V2 as a plugin itself or within Sampletank?

I first look through ST and IF the sound I’m looking for is a Syntronik sound, I then load the individual Syntronik VST

Are you using VST or AU Format?

Always VST
I have totally disabled ALL au formats

Just to be sure, can you try with AU format?
Did you try with a different VST host?

I will try tomorrow … Must fly right now … Thanks for your help :wink:

May this padlock have anything to do with this issue?
I recovered this synth before leaving home, saved the gig files and closed the system. I just opened up GP and have found that THIS is the only one with the padlock activated and is the only ST instrument that worked correctly. i.e. the synth sound was in its place.

???

Apparently I started this thread. Hah!

I “think” my problem was I used Syntronic on two different laptops. And the folders I selected with Syntronik for finding the sounds were not exactly the same. There was some discrepancy.

I think once I ensured the file paths were exactly the same and the folders I told Syntronik to find each synth were the same, I think this eliminated my problem.

On the other hand, I am not sure because I rarely use Syntronik these days (if I can use a physically modeled option, I prefer that try to moderate the amount of ram I use).

This probably does not help, but yo never know…[I know nothing about the padlock]

Can you upload a small gig showing the issue?