About Saving Rackspaces

Hi,

I have just gone thru a process of carefully changing some mixer plugin levels and then using File Menu → Save As

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to save an new iteration of the Gig file.

Then I closed the program. Then I reopened the program. My edits were not there.

Am I mistaken to think that edits made to rackspaces are saved “up-to-current” when Save As is used?

Do I need to do a manual process of ‘Update (save) Rackspace to Gig File’ before I do every Save As?

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The manual states:

Update (save) Rackspace to Gig File - saves the selected rackspace to the currently open .gig file; make sure to save a gig first for this feature to work. Note: this option saves only the currently selected rackspace, and changes made to all other rackspaces will not be saved; if you want to save/update all rackspaces, click on File → Save instead. Also note that you cannot add and save new rackspaces this way - the rackspace must exist and must be saved to the gig file first (you cannot add a new rackspace and then select this menu item to update it because it is not in the gig file yet).

which I interpret as “do File → Save As and you are all-up-to-date with your latest edits”, but this does not seem to be what I just observed.

In case it is relevant, my edits to the mixer were all double-clicks on sliders to return them to 0db. (Possibly that particular action isn’t sticking?)

Possibly my widgets are overriding …

I just created a new gig, added a 4ch mixer, mapped two slider widgets to the Gain parameters of 1/2 and 3/4, changed the slider values, saved, re-opened, double clicked the sliders to return to 0db, Save As…closed, re-opened —the sliders remained at 0db.

Can you try with that simplified example I just gave and see if you can verify the behavior?

I think save as is working like is says.
The gig file (with all current changes) are saved to a new gig file.
The old gig file remains as it is.

Same behavior as when you are worn in Excel and make a save as of your spreadsheet.

Hi. Followed your steps, got your results.

Still a mystery to me though as to why I’m observing what I do.

Here is a video:

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Check this…

Go into Edit mode and highlight one of the widget knobs. Go to the Value tab.

Can you take a screen shot of those properties?

“Last Saved” should be on. “This Value” should be off.

Just thinking out loud.

Good idea.

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I will change this and report back!

I wonder if, instead of opening up an “empty gig” and then selecting a recent gig, you instead opt for “recent” gig file and directly open the recently created gig file? Does that change anything?

[Sternen’s idea is better].

Jeff

Unf., no, that did not fix it.

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The 0db settings still do not stick! (I tried twice)

No, no change that way either.

OK, I found a 2nd widget on a lower panel mapped to the same plugin/parameter.

Deleting that solved this problem. Thanks to all who offered their assistance!

I now recall that at one point I did explicitly want to control that mix level from either of two different places (widgets) in different panels. I now take it that that is a bad idea to pursue …

But if there is a foolproof “proper” way to do that, I would like to know.

Thanks again!

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It’s called widget linking - you map one widget to the parameter you want to control and then you link it with other widgets that don’t do anything other than respond to MIDI messages

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Glad you were able to get it sorted.

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If you ever get unexpected behaviour with widgets, always remember that Window → Widget Mappings will quickly show you the widgets and their mapped parameters. It is a great tool to help with troubleshooting.

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When using 2 or more linked widgets (i.e on different panels) to control a single plugin parameter, it seems that only one of the widgets can display the [value], yes?

Because only 1 widget is mapped to the parameter.

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