5.1.6 - No Delay / Reverb Tail Spillover and "gap" from Rack to Rack Midi Switching?

Hi all !

In my ongoing searching for the NDSP X Latency “thing” I sleep-deprived-stumbled across this post at The Gear Forum here where the user showed / proved that the NDSP X Plugins actually have 0 Samples and 0 ms Latency :slight_smile:

So I now have set up 8 x Racks using different Presets of the same NDSP Plugin.

On thing I have found is that the NDSP X Plugin Delay and Reverb Pedals are fantastic so am using them in all my Presets in my Racks.

However:-

→ there is no Delay Tail or Reverb Tail Spillover from Rack to Rack when switching via Midi FSW ?

and

→ there is a small but quite noticeable gap of silence when switching from Rack to Rack ?

I am using Predictive Loading and each Rack is %100 identical with the only difference being a different NDSP X Plugin Preset for each Rack.

Is there a known “fix” or “workaround” to address these 2 issues ?

My sincere thanks as always. Alexi

You can set the Input muting and Output fading in the Rackspace properties.

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Just set them both to 0.0s - Gap is still there (?)

Also. I assume (?) this does nothing for the lack of Delay and Reverb Trails (?)

Thanks.

Input Muting controls how long the input signal will continue in rackspace A when switching to rackspace B.

Output Fading controls the fade length of the sound from rackspace A when switching to rackspace B. This is the one that is relevant to delay/reverb tails. Setting it to zero will result in no tails (as you discovered).

I tested an Neural DSP X plugin and the tails of the delay and Reverb worked just fine when switching between rackspaces when the Output Fading was set above 0.

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Many thank :).

So can I please ask … what settings to you use for “Input Muting and Output Fading” ?

And do the settings you use allow for both the spill-over and the getting rid of the “silence gap” when changing from Rack to Rack ?

2.5 to 3 seconds is generally what I use, though in rackspaces with longer delays you might want a longer fade time.

When I tested the Neural DSP plugin in two rackspaces, there was no ‘silence gap’ when switching between them. Which plugin are you using and how are you switching your rackspaces?

When testing, you should also switch off predictive loading.

Using Rabea X.

Set both to 3 seconds. The “silence Gap” is much much shorter but there is no Delay Spillover ?

Is perhaps because I am going from a Guitar Solo Rack which has delay in its Preset to a Guitar Rhythm Track which has no Delay in its Preset ?

Actually just to clarify … the “silence gap” in Switching is %99.99 gone :slight_smile:

However … there is no Delay Spillover ? going from a Guitar Solo Rack which has delay in its Preset to a Guitar Rhythm Track which has no Delay in its Preset ?

.. and Predictive Loading is now OFF

IMO you want input muting set to 0s. Once you’ve moved to the new rackspace you don’t want any of your guitar signal still going to the old one.

Set output fading to the max as your test. It’s quite a steep fade out, so best have the max setting.

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Are you running Intel PC or Mac M series ?