I’m intrigued by this system.
I wonder if you experienced any phasing or other time-related issues between the monitor feed and the audio from the ambient mics.
There is a cheaper version of this system by German company “InEar” (yep, that’s the company’s name). They offer a mixer belt pack plus special cables for different iem models that have the ambient mics integrated right at the connection point. But this one hasn’t nearly that many settings,e.g. for compensating for any hearing detoriation and there’s no accompanying app for the settings. It’s a lot cheaper, though.
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It is quite subjective. I started with the SE215 as well, but found them limited in their sonic capabilities. Since then I ugraded to the SE535 when they were on sale. Difference is night and day. I still have a pair of SE215 as spares, they definitely do the job. But the better the phones, the more fun, right?
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Yes, I have both of these also. Better bass response with the 535’s, but the 215’s do the job well enough and are good as a backup pair.
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Exactly! I find the 535s also offer more clarity and separation. I also use a Porter & Davis BC2 tactile monitor in my drum throne/seat. Those together are quite the experience.
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Nice, I always wanted to try one of those.
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I use IEMs for the last many years! Ive moved through cheap Kz audio and Shure universal ears to my now custom 64Audio molds. I love hearing just what I want. If you came from wedge stage environments like me and love the air and ambient room, setup a room mic too and mix that in… but for a cheap in ear rig… just add yourself a digital rack unit like a sound craft ui8 and add a behringer p2 inline amp for your ears and you are golden…. Or I’ve even just had a small Yamaha mixer next to my keys rig and then setup a channel for my in-ears. Several ways around it… but for small bar gigs and noisy environments, in-ears will be your friend good luck!
We, as a band use hybrid in ears which allow a small amount of stage bleed via a small mic. We also use a digital mixer with 6 aux sends. This allows us to each have our own monitor mix and control the mix via an iPad app
started using the Behringer wireless IEMs in stereo. Got used to the isolation within a couple of weeks. The earpieces supplied with the system was not my favourite, so I purchases a set of ZAX from Amazon, which have 16 drivers (8 each) for around £50 at that time. They are superb!
Before the IEM, the singer was complaining that the stage sound was too loud. Now the complaint is that’s too quiet!
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Late to the party but another vote for IEM’s. Couldn’t go back to using a monitor.
We use a Behringer XR18, so everything goes in to that. I use a stereo mix and the others mono. for me it’s like im playing along to a CD at home, which I love.
We do have a digital recorder set up in front of the drums, but it’s close to the drummers monitor as well so I get to hear everything. I was worried about not hearing the ambient before this, but to be honest all the vocals mics pick enough up I don really need a dedicated ambient mic.
My biggest issue has been fit. For me it’s been catch 22. Not going to pay premium for customs until im happy that I can get on with IEM’ Can’t get on with IEM’s if they keep falling out. It took me about a year to finally end up with some Sennheiser IE400 Pro’s, via a pair of the cheaper IE100’s, which are a perfect fit as they are low profile, as are my ears.
I tried the much talked about KZ’s but hated them. Too bright, too heavy, kept falling out.
Now im settled.
This company offers custom silicon sleeves for a lot of iem and earplug models on the market.
I had my custom sleeves made for my Shure SE535s a couple of years ago and they are still in use and in great shape.
They also offer their own brand of iems.
I have no affiliation with this company, but their products and customer service are topnotch.
They are located in Germany, but ship internationally as well.
Yes, that is my next step as well. What was the approximate cost, if you don’t mind telling?
I paid about 120 EUR for one pair including having my earmolds made by them. That was in 2019, though. Prices might be higher now, I have to check their website. But as I said, their customer service is exemplary.
You can have your earmolds made by any audiologist and send them to Scheinhardt. Chances are good, that your model of iem is already in their database. If not, it is required to send in the iems as well.
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Yes I’m using the SE535s also.
I checked, they are 179,- EUR now.
But here is the thing. A middle class iem with custom sleeves will imho sound and feel much better, than a highend pair of iems without them.
Another thing to consider is the material. Those sleeves are soft silicon and change their form with your ears. Almost any other manufacturer of highend iems with custom molds use a hard material that doesn’t give a bit. So people sometimes have to use additional means to make them fit comfotable and tight. A tight seal of the ear canal is the most important thing for the succesful and healthy use of iems.
Yes, an if one of your SE535 gets damaged or lost, your custom sleeve fits onto the replacement as well.
Was it expensive, I couldn’t find their price ?
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Please see above.
They are 179,- EUR a pair now.
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I got some custom molded 64Audio IEMs. I don’t know why, but I find them to be uncomfortably oversized. They’re not unusable, but I find them to be physically fatiguing.
I had expected to be gigging with them, but it hasn’t happened just yet.
I do wear them on airplane trips. The A6T models are scooped, compared to what I would prefer, with lots of bass extension. I expected more midrange for the IEM use case, but I think they sell to music listeners as well.
The other place where I’ve used them is performing with a Samba drumming group. When practicing, we use construction headphone-style ear protectors. When indoors, bone conduction can also cause hearing damage. I use the IEMs on stage and in parades, just not plugged in.
The most comfortable they ever were was on a 100 degree day with limited shade. My ears were sweating, so they were lubricated!
Does anyone here use a lubricant for fitted IEMs?
Yeah, it’s overkill that I have fitted ones, but I find that normal earbuds and plugs fall out of my ears. I just wish my molds were more comfortable. Also, I question the need for high end models. I don’t need deep bass or “air” to monitor a song and keep the beat.